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Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by pjmlp on Friday May 08, 2020 @02:08AM (#23111873)
As far as I am aware it still isn't as GUI oriented as ZWEI used to be.
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by michaelmrose on Friday May 08, 2020 @02:32AM (#23111996)
What gui elements do you find lacking I'm not familiar with ZWEI
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by pjmlp on Friday May 08, 2020 @02:46AM (#23112058)
Basically think of using Emacs like a Jupyter Netbook, including the visualizations.

Back when I was still into Emacs (2004) this wasn't possible.

Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by didibus on Friday May 08, 2020 @03:19AM (#23112234)
That's possible now, you can render images inside buffers.
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by pjmlp on Friday May 08, 2020 @03:30AM (#23112288)
Render images alone is too basic, that was already possible in XEmacs.

I really meant like Jupyter Notebooks, interactive images and data structures, that you can click on and change to your pleasure and plug into Elisp code to be called back.

Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by throwanem on Friday May 08, 2020 @05:17AM (#23112860)
Org-babel does this, and is less limited in language choice than Jupyter; you can use any language for which a binding exists (there are many, including Python) in any code block, irrespective of what you use in any other. The interfaces are pretty clean, and you can have inline images, although I think not interactive ones. Data structures are expressible in code or in tables.

I don't use it much these days, having less need for that sort of highly interactive exploratory analysis, but I did find Jupyter highly limiting by comparison.

Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by pjmlp on Friday May 08, 2020 @06:01AM (#23113079)
Thanks, I will have a look into it, if anything at least not to spread misinformation.
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by diffeomorphism on Friday May 08, 2020 @04:11AM (#23112525)
You can integrate jupyter notebooks into emacs so in particular everything "like jupyter" and more.
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by pjmlp on Friday May 08, 2020 @04:12AM (#23112533)
That is not the same as it doesn't work with Elisp, and hardly brings any value from Emacs itself.
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by didibus on Friday May 08, 2020 @04:11AM (#23112526)
Oh I see. Ya fair. Though honestly even in Jupyter notebooks I don't often see many people making use of anything more then static renders.