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Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by smacktoward on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:23PM (#23106302)
The X models are designed to be ultraportable, aka as thin and light as possible. As a result, they're not great machines for people who need lots of RAM, storage, etc.

The P series (https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p/c/t...) is more the "desktop workstation replacement" line; heavier and thicker, but with more room for components. You can get those with up to 128GB of RAM.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by combixtreen on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:31PM (#23106421)
You forgot about 15” X1E, which is a desktop replacement. It’s still light and portable but comes with higher specs. I have one with UHD screen, 32GB and 1TB. Same weight as a 15” MacBook Pro. Configured with an FHD screen, it’s lighter than MacBook.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by nullobject on Thursday May 07, 2020 @08:37PM (#23110071)
I just switched to the X1E after using Mac for the past 20 years. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04.

It's an amazing machine: excellent build quality, screen, and variety of ports. The only thing I can complain about is the battery life, which isn't great.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by RedneckBob on Friday May 08, 2020 @12:06AM (#23111292)
You installed cpufreaq yet? It is a life saver and a battery saver too. I run most of the time with 4 cores, turbo disabled, and capped at about 50%. Makes a huge difference in battery runtime.

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1082/cpufreq/

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by jlgaddis on Friday May 08, 2020 @02:43AM (#23112043)
FWIW, PowerTOP [0] and tlp [1] used to be the "go-to" utility for this sort of thing.

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[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerTOP

[1]: https://linrunner.de/tlp/

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by basch on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:37PM (#23107254)
also the FHD screen has twice the battery life, if you want to make that trade off.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by GordonS on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:36PM (#23106485)
I was hoping for the best of both worlds - something with a 14" 3K display, very light (don't care too much about thinness TBH), but with a good processor and 32GB of RAM.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by smacktoward on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:43PM (#23106578)
The all-arounders are the T series: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-ser...

The AMD-based T495 can be configured with up to 32GB of RAM; the Intel-based T490, up to 48GB.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by cvdub on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:45PM (#23107338)
I regret getting the WQHD (2560x1440) screen on my X1 Carbon 7th gen. Text is too small to read without scaling, and I haven't figured out how to configure consistent scaling behavior across Wayland and XWayland applications.

FHD is plenty on a 14" screen.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by lower on Thursday May 07, 2020 @04:29PM (#23107908)
I have the same configuration and leave display scaling at 100%, but set the font scaling factor to 1.5 in the Gnome Tweak Tool. In this way, all fonts in Wayland and XWayland apps have the right size and nothing is blurry. Only controls like window borders are a bit smaller than intended by the designer, but I actually prefer it that way because it's more compact.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by JoshTriplett on Thursday May 07, 2020 @04:47PM (#23108107)
Likewise (scaling factor 1.4 here). I find that quite usable.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by dTal on Sunday May 10, 2020 @09:57AM (#23132602)
Counterpoint, I also got the WQHD screen, on my T480, and it's great. I absolutely love the print-quality text in my terminals. "Scaling" is not a problem at all - I eventually figured out that the way to get flawless graphics is to ignore all "scaling" settings and simply throw an xrandr command in .xinitrc that forces the DPI to its correct value (144). For some strange reason X11 ignores the real screen DPI (which it knows perfectly well!) and forces it to 96, which is broken behaviour in 2020. Most of the rest of the software ecosystem is a team player, and respects the DPI setting (things that don't are broken - I believe GTK requires an environment variable, but QT respects it). "Scaling" is a broken concept - 12pt font should render at 12pts, no matter your screen size or resolution.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by ggreer on Thursday May 07, 2020 @04:09PM (#23107649)
I have an X1 Carbon 7th gen with a 4k screen (3840x2160). I run it at 2x scaling on Wayland (sway) and I haven't had any issues with native Wayland apps. X apps are rendered at 1x and upscaled, making them blocky or blurry. Apparently there are some apps like Spotify that ignore scaling settings and always render at 1x, but I haven't run into them.

There is a fix in progress for XWayland scaling: https://github.com/swaywm/wlroots/pull/2064

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by GordonS on Friday May 08, 2020 @06:01AM (#23113082)
I'm assuming you're a developer (just because this is HN) - curious to know what kind of battery life do get with a UHD screen?
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by GordonS on Friday May 08, 2020 @06:00AM (#23113075)
I use Windows, so consistent scaling wouldn't be an issue. I was more wondering with regards to battery life.

I'm pretty sure I'd prefer a WQHD screen to FHD, but am also pretty sure I wouldn't get any benefit of going to UHD. But at the same time, if WQHD has a significant impact on battery life, I'd probably stick with FHD.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by katmannthree on Thursday May 07, 2020 @04:08PM (#23107627)
I have a T480s with a 14" FHD (1920x1080) screen and the experience isn't good either. Wayland apps work with fractional 1.25X scaling but are laggy and have odd graphical glitches. XWayland apps are just blurry.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by distances on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:44PM (#23108714)
I think 1920x1080 is the perfect native resolution for 14", without scaling. It's a bit small on first look but you're closer to laptop screen than you're to a real monitor, so that turns out just fine for me.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by ghostpepper on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:43PM (#23109237)
They're ridiculously light too. I have the 7th with the 6-core i7-10710U and it weighs under 1000g (not including power adapter).
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by GordonS on Friday May 08, 2020 @05:58AM (#23113064)
That is pretty impressive.

Does it have any issues with heat dissipation or/and fan noise when doing CPU intensive work?

My HP Zbook is pretty heavy and chunky, but still gets pretty hot and can be annoyingly noisy (thanks Mcafee...).

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by ghostpepper on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:33PM (#23169358)
It does get hot, and I'll admit I don't generally use it for sustained workloads, but I've never noticed the fans getting loud. This is just anecdotal but it seems like most of the heat is generated near the screen, above the keyboard, where you don't have as much contact with the machine.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by notJim on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:48PM (#23106657)
13" MBP is available with 32 GB of RAM now, Lenovo needs to up their game :)
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by kube-system on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:58PM (#23107502)
My cheap 2 year old ultraportable Lenovo supports 32 gigs of ram. And it's DDR4. And they're still socketed.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by notJim on Thursday May 07, 2020 @07:13PM (#23109480)
The person I was replying to made it sound like they didn't offer this for their ultraportables, I guess I misread it.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by jlgaddis on Friday May 08, 2020 @02:49AM (#23112072)
Hell, my 7-year-old W530 has had 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) since the day I got it -- and it's not soldered in either!
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by imperialdrive on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:12PM (#23108411)
Lenovo has plenty of 32GB Thinkpads... nothing new.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by notJim on Thursday May 07, 2020 @07:12PM (#23109466)
I meant in the ultraportable space, which smacktoward made it sound like they don't offer.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by numpad0 on Friday May 08, 2020 @07:59AM (#23113753)
Just that 32GB isn’t considered “a lot” I guess.

Besides DDR4 SODIMM 32GB modules exist, if 32GB is what you want you just buy it off Amazon and put it in. Don’t have to mess around with “what they offer us the privilege to be able to purchase” like with soldered RAM.