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Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by 2019-nCoV on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @07:48PM (#23086436)
Zurich and London top out at $100k, any more and we're talking managerial responsibilities. Compared to SF or SEA they are only paying ~25% market rate.

The safety net argument has no legs. Australia and Canada both have social benefits that far exceed the majority of EU nations, yet pre-pandemic there was no shortage of $150k+ dev roles.

Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by vhartman on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @08:10PM (#23086571)
Zurich does definitely not top out at 100k. Depending on your negotiation skills, you'll start at about 120-140k in the big tech companies, around 120k in data science consulting, 120k for data science in banks, 80-100k at the smaller software companies.
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by 2019-nCoV on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @08:40PM (#23086755)
The number of European devs making >$100k is a fraction of a percent. Your numbers tell the story — the pinnacle of the entire European continent is still only paying 25% comparable US market rate, and 60% comparable AU/CA rate. In a city more expensive than SF.
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by lonbigtech on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @10:03PM (#23087253)
London isn’t more expensive than SF. And I have colleagues who make £450k+
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by 2019-nCoV on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @10:16PM (#23087319)
> London isn’t more expensive than SF.

Zurich is.

> And I have colleagues who make £450k+

Just as there are American devs pocketing 7 figures annually. Again, the number of European devs making >$100k is a fraction of a percent. You can be making $100k in the US after a 6 month bootcamp or in AU/CA with a couple of years experience.

Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by lonbigtech on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @10:50PM (#23087491)
> Zurich is Not when you factor in the tax differential

I doubt that $100k is the 99th percentile for London developers, maybe it is for European in general.

Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by ryandrake on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @01:51AM (#23088236)
If you've read salary threads, you’d know that everyone on Hacker News makes $1.5 million per year as an entry level software engineer, owns three houses and a Ferrari, and has a supermodel significant other.
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by louisswiss on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @08:19PM (#23086630)
I've employed developers in Zurich.

I promise you, the market for developers does not top out at anywhere near $100k.

That's closer to a starting salary (assuming a university degree).

Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by jashmatthews on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @08:59PM (#23086884)
I had an offer in London as a dev in finance at ~300k GBP total comp and a Series B startup offer over 100k GBP and that was more than 4 years ago. Ended up going with a much smaller seed-stage company in Berlin because I couldn't stomach the finance people and liked Berlin.
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by wdb on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @02:18AM (#23088338)
£300k, how much would that be in base salary?
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by jashmatthews on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @02:53AM (#23088484)
Less than half. Tbh I found the whole "guaranteed" bonus thing quite confusing.

London finance attracts a crowd that I had very little in common with. To be honest I only interviewed to see what it was like. It wasn't for me.

Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by wdb on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @10:20AM (#23091218)
Yet to find the first company in London which really offers a guaranteed bonus ️
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by moneywoes on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @12:47AM (#23087986)
Is it ok if I ask your YOE and stack?
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by jashmatthews on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @01:04AM (#23088052)
10 years as a professional dev, CS degree, 10 years before that as a hobbyist. Regular meetup speaker, couple of international conference invites.

Mainly worked with high traffic Ruby apps but also done production C and Rust. Side interests in VMs and compilers.

These positions exist if you're good, experienced and most of all, not a complete asshole.

Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by LunaSea on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @07:14AM (#23089717)
But cost of living was much more expensive as well. Especially for housing.
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by wolco on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @08:35PM (#23086719)
Good luck finding a dev job malig 150k+ in Canadian dollars.
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by lonbigtech on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @10:01PM (#23087243)
In Canada? Work at a fintech, FANG, or as a quant.
Re:Citing revenue declines, Airbnb cuts 25% of workforce by lonbigtech on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @09:52PM (#23087194)
London doesn’t top out at $100k. Neither does Zurich