Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by rdiddly on Monday April 27, 2020 @07:36PM
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Yeah you can pretty much transplant this sentence to any public forum:
At the same time, we are concerned by a chilling attitude among some [people], who are wrongly ascribing legitimate disagreements about [issues] to ignorance or to questionable political or other motivations.
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by downerending on Monday April 27, 2020 @07:13PM
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Meh. This trend was in full force long before the virus showed up.
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by jhayward on Monday April 27, 2020 @07:54PM
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> What, if anything, is more necessary to a free society than the free expression and debate of ideas?
The commons must be protected from bad actors, and bad faith whose purpose is to use the openness of society against itself. [1]
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by nostromo on Monday April 27, 2020 @08:36PM
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To imply that John Ioannidis is a bad actor is ridiculous.
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by stonogo on Monday April 27, 2020 @09:23PM
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What is a "good actor" motivation for organizing a press tour for a non-peer reviewed preprint?
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by nostromo on Monday April 27, 2020 @09:27PM
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If that's suspect, why aren't you questioning all the other scientists and doctors doing interviews right now?
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by stonogo on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @02:41AM
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I am absolutely questioning all of the scientists and doctors who perform press tours for unreviewed preprints, yes.
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by jhayward on Monday April 27, 2020 @08:47PM
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It is a plausible explanation for his recent actions. And, in fact, his recent actions require us to re-visit his past investigations and expose with the assumption of good faith suspended.
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by zaroth on Monday April 27, 2020 @08:51PM
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All this does is help expose the theory of "paradox of intolerance" for what it truly is. A hammer with which to bludgeon people whom you don't agree with.
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by SlowRobotAhead on Monday April 27, 2020 @11:32PM
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“We will not tolerate intolerance!”
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by colpabar on Monday April 27, 2020 @08:43PM
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Protected by who?
Re:Let's hear scientists with different Covid-19 views, not ...
by pgsbathhouse2 on Monday April 27, 2020 @10:49PM
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Definitely not people like you.
What, if anything, is more necessary to a free society than the free expression and debate of ideas?
This of course requires a literate and critical interpretation of the facts and data by all, but I digress. This is science.