Europe’s cities are making less room for cars after coronavirus

Re:Europe’s cities are making less room for cars after coron... by patrickaljord on Saturday April 25, 2020 @07:16PM (#22982519)

Better in what way? I've in Paris for decades, people are jammed together all the time. Horrible conditions during a pandemic. Let's face it, cars are better in this case. Biking in Paris where it rains all the time and gets really cold, good luck with that (I'm a biker myself and use it all the time, just not feeling good about this knowing Parisians).

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Re:Europe’s cities are making less room for cars after coron... by bobthepanda on Saturday April 25, 2020 @07:40PM (#22982652)

> Better in what way?

It at least exists in a form that is usable. In the US, most people do not even live within a bus line that comes < 15 min frequency during the rush hour, let alone all day, or next to a rail line or something more substantial.

If the local bus only comes four times a day I'm much less likely to use it, since missing one means I am screwed for quite a while or then have to cough up money I wasn't planning on spending on a taxi.

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Re:Europe’s cities are making less room for cars after coron... by hk__2 on Saturday April 25, 2020 @07:50PM (#22982727)

> Biking in Paris where it rains all the time and gets really cold, good luck with that (I'm a biker myself and use it all the time, just not feeling good about this knowing Parisians).

Is it really worse than other big cities? Does it have a proven impact on bike usage? As some anecdata, it rains twice more in New York than in Paris 1,200mm vs. 600mm/year) and on more days (121 vs. 111/yr). Amsterdam, the well known bikes-everywhere city is colder and has more rain (900mm) than Paris. Berlin is well know for both frequent rains and a large bike usage.

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Re:Europe’s cities are making less room for cars after coron... by petre on Sunday April 26, 2020 @01:23AM (#22984725)

Parisians using scooters (gas powered) seem not to be bothered by rain or cold that much. Otherwise scooter usage wouldn't be so high. Not as high as Naples though.

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Re:Europe’s cities are making less room for cars after coron... by patrickaljord on Saturday April 25, 2020 @07:54PM (#22982749)

Amsterdam is flat, not the case for Paris.

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Re:Europe’s cities are making less room for cars after coron... by stereo on Saturday April 25, 2020 @08:12PM (#22982889)

Paris is a lot flatter than Aarhus, which has much higher bicycle usage. And if you need to go to Montmartre, any Decathlon in Paris sells perfectly decent e-bikes for a few hundred Euros. It's infrastructure, not culture or hills or weather.

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Re:Europe’s cities are making less room for cars after coron... by petre on Sunday April 26, 2020 @01:30AM (#22984766)

Yup, it is infrastructure. All those quaint cubic rock paved hilly streets in Montmartre with obstacles tobprevwnt cars parking and and cars parked on the side are a cycling hazard, especially when it rains.

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Re:Europe’s cities are making less room for cars after coron... by CydeWeys on Saturday April 25, 2020 @08:49PM (#22983158)

Paris isn't that hilly, and anyway ebikes are great at solving this problem.

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Re:Europe’s cities are making less room for cars after coron... by speedgoose on Sunday April 26, 2020 @03:15AM (#22985228)

Come on, Paris is almost flat and everyone with no medical condition should be able to bike up the small hill of Montmartre.

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