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Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by shrew on Thursday April 23, 2020 @03:44AM (#22953681)
I'm with you here, I went through a period of moving to feature phones and ditching the smart watch to reduce the phone back to utility rather than a distraction. But feature phones, even those running kaiOS, just don't have the support for communication tools and things like 2fa authenticator apps.

I eventually went for an iPhone SE (2016) in the last year, after it was discontinued and managed to get a boxed, new unit for less than even the low-end android market phones go for. Thus far it's the most enjoyable phone to use having moved from an S8 which was certainly "better" on paper.

The size is incredibly portable and easy to handle, the battery, despite only being 1500mAh, does a very good job lasting me the day (though I certainly expect it won't continue to do so) and the screen is acceptable but annoying enough that I don't want to be using it for long stretches. It's got the lastest iOS and I fully expect the lack of iOS 14 support will be the reason I have to swap it for a new model once software support falls away.

It seems like this new SE model is still the smallest phone you can get despite the increase in dimensions and weight that you mention. It's nice to see a comment that shares my view and I hope a market for the smaller phone will come back around similar to that odd stage in the early 00s where handsets suddenly became impossibly small.

Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by swiley on Thursday April 23, 2020 @08:34AM (#22955243)
My iPhone SE got destroyed and I got a 7 to replace it since they wouldn’t give me another SE. The larger screen isn’t nicer and just makes the phone harder to hold. I actually feel like I have a harder time touching things accurately as well, I think the 7 detects touches at a different place on your finger.

And of course I can’t use headphones, I ordered a dongle from newegg and waited weeks and now it hasn’t come. I’ve mostly given up on using my phone for music because of this.

The water resistance is nice though, that’s probably the only feature I’ve actually enjoyed.

Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by iso1631 on Thursday April 23, 2020 @09:34AM (#22955764)
I've had smart phones for over a decade, and a mobile phone for 2, I can't think of any point when I've needed water resistance.

I have however had a smashed screen once, and the bigger a phone is, the harder it is to hold, the more likely the screen will smash

The old macbooks were great with the maglock power lead not pulling them off the desk. I believe new ones have downgraded the connector?

Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by really3452 on Thursday April 23, 2020 @11:08AM (#22956849)
> The old macbooks were great with the maglock power lead not pulling them off the desk. I believe new ones have downgraded the connector?

I have been using this Magnetic USB C Adapter and am very happy with it: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0816PV1YZ/

Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by ThePowerOfFuet on Sunday April 26, 2020 @10:00AM (#22987190)
Be careful with that; during disconnection of the magnetic part, the pins carrying 20 V on the cable can make momentary connections with other pins on the portion of the connector remaining in the machine; if this happens, the port may never work again (for charging, or for anything else).

The risk is probably not worth it.

Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by mikestew on Thursday April 23, 2020 @11:49AM (#22957253)
I can't think of any point when I've needed water resistance.

Then it's not for you. But given that phone manufacturers go to the expense of putting water-sensing strips inside phones, someone is going to put that water resistance to use.

Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by pmontra on Thursday April 23, 2020 @10:28AM (#22956382)
> I can't think of any point when I've needed water resistance.

I couldn't too, then I fell into a channel. No harms to me and my bicycle but I had to turn off the phone and let it dry for a day before I could use it again.

Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by ianai on Thursday April 23, 2020 @10:07AM (#22956111)
New ones just charge over usb-c.
Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by iso1631 on Thursday April 23, 2020 @12:24PM (#22957679)
Which isn't magnetic (unless you get extra kit)
Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by rangibaby on Thursday April 23, 2020 @08:48AM (#22955337)
I thought iPhone 7s have the dongle included
Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by generalpf on Thursday April 23, 2020 @09:36AM (#22955795)
Mine came with one.
Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by vbezhenar on Thursday April 23, 2020 @09:50AM (#22955934)
Try different phone, may be your touch screen is not calibrated properly.
Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by swiley on Thursday April 23, 2020 @06:48PM (#22962457)
If I got a different phone it would have to be one with a reasonable size or one that let me leave gcc/openssh installed for more than a few weeks at a time.
Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by xenonite on Friday April 24, 2020 @02:15AM (#22965192)
Sounds your 7 was not new at all.
Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by yhoiseth on Thursday April 23, 2020 @07:15AM (#22954736)
> It's got the lastest iOS and I fully expect the lack of iOS 14 support will be the reason I have to swap it for a new model once software support falls away.

For what it’s worth, Apple last updated iOS 12 on March 24th, so they seem to be supporting not only the most recent major version of iOS: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by shrew on Friday April 24, 2020 @03:47AM (#22965625)
I didn't know this, this is excellent news. Thank you! I was worried that my work policy might block my phone without the latest firmware.
Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by yhoiseth on Friday April 24, 2020 @04:36AM (#22965855)
Note that Apple, as far as I’m aware, doesn’t officialy support any other iOS version than the latest. So your employer might still block your phone.
Re:The 2020 iPhone SE by ThePowerOfFuet on Sunday April 26, 2020 @09:58AM (#22987173)
> the battery, despite only being 1500mAh, does a very good job lasting me the day (though I certainly expect it won't continue to do so)

Once _Settings - Battery_ indicates you need a new one, the $59 (or equivalent) that Apple charges is well worth it. You will also likely notice a performance increase as well!