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Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by scurvy on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:11PM (#22927242)
Considering that the front-month oil contracts went negative today (paid to buy a barrel of oil), I think more (well funded and adept) players will try to hastily arrange more storage facilities. There's just no place to put the stuff right now.

It's quite difficult to turn-off an active well. Deep-water wells are all but impossible to stop.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jofer on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:20PM (#22927345)
Actually, deep water wells are usually quite easy to shut in by design. They frequently need to be shut in due to hurricanes or infrastructure maintenance. You don't drill a $100 million deepwater well without all the bells and whistles.

Very cheap wells with low production (onshore, say ~10 barrel per day) are the ones that tend to be difficult to shut in, as they're not designed for easy temporary shut-ins.

That having been said, most of the "must produce" issues are contractual. There are plenty of contracts with production quotas/etc. Similarly, pipelines need a minimum volume to keep flowing, and once they're stopped, they can be difficult to start again (inspections/etc, as well as physically starting things flowing).

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by D_Alex on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @03:06AM (#22932695)
ALL wells, including the "very cheap wells" are easy to shut in, by design. It is an essential safety feature, mandated by all relevant codes, rules and regulations.

SOME wells can be a little difficult to restart after a shut-in. This includes, for example, offshore wells which extract waxy crude - the crude can simply solidify in the pipe if allowed to cool down to ambient temperature. See link below. This is usually not a big problem for a planned shutdown, as the facility will take measures to prevent such a situation (eg flush the pipes with diesel right after shutdown).

I suspect the problem might be more difficult with some pipelines, as these may be impractical to flush.

https://www.khavaranparaffin.com/articles/161-wax-problems-i...

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jofer on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:49AM (#22934939)
Yes, any well must be able to be shut in. I phrased that poorly. What I meant was that not all wells respond to a shut in in the same way. It's not uncommon for things to take months to recover to the same production levels after a shut in. (At least for conventional wells -- unconventionals are significantly different.)

(Major caveat here: I'm an exploration geologist who later went into remote sensing, so my knowledge of actual operations is pretty spotty. Feel free to ignore me on this, but I'm going to keep rambling anyway.)

I was referring to a lot of onshore wells in declining or very small conventional fields. In many cases, a shut in that lasts for more than a few weeks basically leads to a P&A, as production won't recover without a workover, and a workover isn't worth it. That's what I meant by "not designed for it" -- production is expected to be sub-par after a shut in and a workover was never in the plans. A shut in means a death sentence for some wells, so operators prefer to keep them trickling along when possible, as it leads to a higher EUR. (Also most of these are hooked up to stock tanks, not production gathering pipelines, so it's a bit of a different world.)

However, I'm extrapolating from the very little experience I've had with that. Literally one tiny onshore field in TN (yes, Tennessee) that I worked in/with 15 years ago a summer after undergrad (I was actually mostly collecting seismic with a tiny source and a short string of geophones from the back of a pickup truck, so not terribly closely related). I may very well be way off base.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by bdevine on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:47PM (#22928340)
You've missed your very best chance ever to lead with "Well, actually"!
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by scurvy on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:40PM (#22928911)
That might have been true 20-30 years ago. Today, all of the easy oil has been tapped. They're going out farther, deeper, and under much high pressures than before. Oh, and they're less regulated.

> You don't drill a $100 million deepwater well without all the bells and whistles. <

You will if you can make a couple $B off it. It's a risk. The deep gulf has mudslides that take out rigs. It happened to Taylor Energy in 2004. All the tech in the world couldn't prevent that spill.

https://www.nola.com/news/article_a55f87c0-8253-11ea-9f24-23...

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jofer on Monday April 20, 2020 @07:09PM (#22929881)
What does that have do the ability to shut in a well? A shut in isn't stopping something that's leaking or stopping a blowout. It's the ability to deliberately and temporarily stop production.

A loss of containment is very very very bad and a huge problem, but it's not related to a shut in.

I'm well aware of shallow hazards (e.g. mass wasting aka mudslides). I've mapped them in many areas. I'm well aware of the ongoing Taylor spill. I've actually worked with monitoring it using satellite imagery from the regulatory side. I've also worked with it from the oil industry side...

None of that is even remotely relevant here, though... I'm still very unclear how anything you mentioned relates to anything I said...

That having been said, if you think _anything_ around the oil industry isn't done with safety and environmental concerns first and foremost, you've _clearly_ never been anywhere around the industry. I'm dead serious.

What they do is really, really, really damned dangerous and it's fair to debate whether that risk is worth it at a societal level.

However, don't for a goddamn second think that these folks don't care or are sloppy. _Every_ meeting all the way to the top starts with a discussion about safety and possible environmental impacts. I really, really mean that... Every damn one. It's vastly more important than very literally anything else. The first decision is _always_ HSE, never money.

Yeah, things can go wrong in very bad ways. It's not because people don't care or are trying to make a buck at the expense of the environment. It's because they're working in a really difficult environment. Yes, deepwater horizon was preventable. Yes it was due to a poor well design. BP fucked up. That doesn't mean that the oil industry is some evil mustache twirling villain.

You want cheap vegetables, flights across the continent, and plastics? Right now, we have to have oil for that. It ain't ideal, but it's not because people are out there trying to make money off of environmental disasters.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by geon on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @02:58AM (#22932656)
If the disasters happen repeatedly despite safety and environmental concerns being the top priority, then clearly they are not.

Money comes first, safety second.

Obviously there will be a lot of effort spent on safety, because otherwise there would be even more accidents, and the whole company might be forced to shut down.

As it is, they have just found an equilibrium of safety and greed.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by _n_b_ on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @04:07AM (#22932987)
Businesses exist to make money. There is a constant demand for oil in the market; the world as we know it needs some level of oil to continue to function. If you can't ban the extraction oil, and you believe in the continued existence of private business, then profit and safety have to co-exist as priorities.

All industrial operations are inherently exercises in risk management. I think it's smug to phrase that as an "equilibrium of safety and greed" but frankly, yes, in order for things with risk to happen, you have to accept a level of risk, which will never ever be 0.

I work in another industry (not oil & gas) where safety is a consideration in every action we take, and it's not just lip-service. It's a down-to-our-bones mentality that we won't do anything unsafe, or allow anything unsafe to happen. Accidents still happen, and it's not because if avarice.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by ajuc on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @07:08AM (#22933821)
In many countries oil is taxed at over 70%. If oil prices grew by let's say 50% - these countries can lower the tax and consumers wouldn't even notice.

There's no excuse for ignoring external costs - these costs are real and paid by everybody while profits are gathered by only a few people.

It's deeply unethical but more importantly irrational - people profiting from the fossil fuels have no incentives to fix anything if they aren't forced to deal with the external costs.

Currently the system is - they get the profits and everybody pays for external costs. That makes alternatives to fossil fuels less attractive because you will pay "petrol tax" anyway in taxes spent on all the external costs, even if you don't buy any fossil fuels ever.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by hanniabu on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:37PM (#22928230)
I fully expect some environmental accident b/c that's cheaper than paying people to take it. Also considering at least in the US, the EPA was told not to investigate things during the shut down.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by Digory on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:33PM (#22927506)
The negative price has to do with the short delivery date, and the lack of storage at the (landlocked) delivery point. June 2020 WTI is still over $20/barrel.

If anyone had storage to bring online in the next few weeks, in Cushing, Oklahoma, they'd make a killing. At this point, they're going to need to ship it to a port, to get on a tanker.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:41PM (#22927603)
Anyone got a spare oil tanker? :-) I only slightly kid, makes me wonder how quickly I could acquire a number of oil storage units.

edit: this tanker is off the gulf coast right now... https://horizonship.com/ship/274m-suezmax-crude-oil-carrier-...

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by downerending on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:37PM (#22928228)
Actually, I think the real players have already been doing this for a few weeks. If there's a buck to be made, you can bet someone is on it.

I was wondering whether they couldn't rapidly build some new storage (cost-effectively), but probably the answer is no.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by selectodude on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:56PM (#22928439)
I'm not sure there's much of anything that will get the NIMBYs riled up more than a million barrels of crude.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by dsfyu404ed on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:46PM (#22928989)
Add blue collar people to the mix and it acts like a NIMBY rage multiplier. I'm picturing the movie plot now:

A bunch of gulf coast fisherman, effectively unemployed by Corona hatch a plan to make a buck by taking advantage of the negative price of oil futures. They pool their resources and somehow get their hands on a derelict Venezuelan tanker, cheap because of favorable exchange rates, in order to take delivery of some obscene amount of crude as part of a scheme to make money on futures. Being on a budget of course they crew the thing themselves, it's a ship after all, just a little bigger than the ones they usually handle. Things don't exactly go as planned when they travel to Venezuela to take possession of the ship. Their journey from there to the Port of Houston to pick up their cargo is mired by an incompetent coast guard, environmental activists and a vengeful ex-wife turned local politician.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by taneq on Monday April 20, 2020 @09:49PM (#22931054)
Starring Bruce Willis, Angelina Jolie.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by devdas on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @08:07AM (#22934159)
A repurposed cruise ship.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by perl4ever on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:24PM (#22928746)
Who does want a million barrels of crude in their back yard? As a very rough estimate, you'd have to stack them the better part of a mile high in mine.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by hedora on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @01:11AM (#22932160)
I don’t think space is the issue. Shipping and safety (dealing with the one barrel that leaks) could easily eat $40/barrel if you’re not already set up for it.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jcranmer on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:04PM (#22927903)
That's one of the reasons why spot prices are crashing: we've used up the supply of spare oil tankers to store the oil we're not using.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by rhizome on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:58PM (#22927829)
Just with a cursory "oil tanker for sale" search, they appear to be for sale in the $10-20MM range.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by entangledqubit on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:16PM (#22928025)
Just make sure they don't sell it to you already filled with "thank you" oil...
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:28PM (#22928784)
I mean... Free oil is still free oil, and worth something in the future. Just not as much as being paid to take oil :)
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by ldoughty on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:10PM (#22927957)
If the oil tanker can hold 2,000,000 barrels at -$35/ barrel you are being paid $70 million to store the oil for a few months...

Of course, the next question is who pays for transport to/from the tanker, labor, dock fees, employees in ship (unless you can simply "park" it for a fee)

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:30PM (#22928807)
Yeah, I was wondering. I think if someone had the experience needed to put this together quickly it would likely be profitable.

It looks like most tankers are ~200,000 metric tons which at ~8 barrels per metric ton is roughly 1.6 million barrels. You also really only need to store it for a month, I think June futures are around $20 still, and so it's a diff of ~$60/barrel.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by bluGill on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:20AM (#22934684)
Better yet you can play hedging games with your oil. Sell a june delivery contract to lock in your profit now. If June prices collapse buy a contract to take delivery in June and sell one to deliver in July. You never have to get to Port until prices are high enough to be worth actually making a delivery, and you make money every month.

Details of the above are important to get just right. It works out if you get all the details right.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by BloominOnion on Monday April 20, 2020 @09:45PM (#22931025)
Ran some basic figures for 6 months:

Barrels 2000000

lease cost / day $350,000.00

Barrel cost -$37

Take delivery profit $74,000,000.00

After 180 days storage $63,000,000.00

Sell/barrel $20

Net $51,000,000.00

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by scurvy on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:42PM (#22928951)
Did you read the part where I wrote, "there's no place to put the stuff?"

I also specifically said "front month contract".

June oil is barely over $20 today and will probably drop under that mark by week's end.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by hectormalot on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @02:42AM (#22932596)
The point of futures is that I could sell my oil _today_ to be delivered in June for $20. Any change in June oil prices from that point onwards doesn’t matter once I’ve sold the contract.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by bluGill on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:22AM (#22934698)
If the price collapses for June you buy a june pick up contract, trade it for your June delivery contract, and sell a July delivery contract. So long as you have the oil and can deliver you can make money on it until prices return to where it doesn't work out at which time you deliver your oil.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by Frost1x on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:19PM (#22927333)
>Deep-water wells are all but impossible to stop.

While I realize you're referring to a functioning deep-water well, working as designed, I can't help but remember the complete mess from Deepwater Horizon. If it's difficult to stop a correctly functioning deep-water well, I have even more respect for that mess of a situation (and a bit more disdain for the practice in general):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by tgb on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:20PM (#22927355)
That was ten years ago today, actually. I just watched this wonderful 11 minute video on the failure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCVCOWejlag
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by CamperBob2 on Monday April 20, 2020 @07:05PM (#22929837)
Those videos are great, very educational. Like a mashup of Khan Academy, Derek Lowe, and Calvin & Hobbes.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by baud147258 on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:44AM (#22934900)
I ended up watching a bunch of those videos, they are really well made, thank you for the link
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by mastratton3 on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:13PM (#22927987)
That occurred during drilling not production so all the standard well head facilities were not in place.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by scurvy on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:46PM (#22928992)
There were still mechanical failures all over in safety devices. We're drilling much deeper than under higher pressures now than Deepwater Horizon.

To imply that deepwater oil production is safe, is crazy. Storms happen. Mudslides (underwater) happen. Pandemics happen. This is why majors contract out to the offshore drillers. They want nothing to do with it.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by mastratton3 on Monday April 20, 2020 @06:05PM (#22929216)
That's not exactly accurate. Transocean was the contract driller on deepwater horizon but BP still took the brunt of the liability and PR backlash. The contract structure actually hasn't changed much in the past 20 years.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jedberg on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:43PM (#22928307)
When the price went negative, it made me wonder if I could legally take delivery of barrels of oil in my back yard.

I'd like to assume there are some EPA rules that preclude one from storing barrels of oil just anywhere, but at the same time, the EPA is currently not enforcing any regulations.

I also wondered about delivery on these contracts. Does that include delivery to any address I specify? Can I get paid $3000 to take 100 barrels and ask them to drop it off at my house?

And then what? After the price recovers and I want to sell the barrels, will someone come get them from house?

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by dragonwriter on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:50PM (#22928373)
> When the price went negative, it made me wonder if I could legally take delivery of barrels of oil in my back yard.

Typically, the exchange contract is quite specific about where and how delivery can be made, and “in barrels shipped to your backyard” isn't an option. See, e.g., the delivery procedures here: https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/crude-oil/light-swee...

Also, “barrels” are just a (traditional for the commodity) unit of measure (42 US gallons/35 imperial gallons), not actual containers used for delivery.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jedberg on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:57PM (#22928458)
You've dashed all my hopes for a quick buck, but thank you for the enlightening information!
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by throw_away on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:17PM (#22928675)
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jedberg on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:32PM (#22928824)
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by eythian on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @11:03AM (#22935515)
https://thedailywtf.com/articles/Special-Delivery accidental coal delivery, but still.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by betterunix2 on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:31AM (#22934777)
Even if the oil came in physical barrels, the contract is for 1000 barrels of oil, so you would need quite a lot of space in your back yard. That quantity is more like a railroad car full of oil. You might be able to arrange for the oil to be put in a tank car and delivered to a train track somewhere if you wanted to try this, though I suspect you would not make nearly as much money in the process as you think.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by takinola on Monday April 20, 2020 @11:44PM (#22931647)
The reason wells are hard to shut in has nothing to do with the actual turning off the tap. All wells are designed to turned off with BOPs (blow out preventers, etc). The problem is that if you shut in a well for an extended period of time, you damage the reservoir and will have to do remedial work to get it back to its production rate (if ever). This is why producers are not keen to shut down production. They have to weigh the short term cost of the current prices against the cost of future losses over the lifetime of the reservoir
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by vkou on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:48PM (#22927705)
Nobody's going to spend money to build new storage facilities for an oil glut that will go away in, at most, a month or two.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jessaustin on Monday April 20, 2020 @06:23PM (#22929431)
If you're sure about that, I hope you're investing accordingly...
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by bluGill on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:25AM (#22934724)
Not exactly. If you are not sure the glut will last for a while and then disappear you don't invest. There is a ton of money to make but only if you get the details right, if any is wrong there is a ton of money to lose.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jessaustin on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @11:16AM (#22935640)
If you're sure the glut will disappear within two months there are lots of safe investments.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by bluGill on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @03:25PM (#22938451)
What if you don't know if it is 2 months or 2 years? There are great investments either way, but some investments only work with one and lose badly in the other. Thus if you are not sure you can't invest.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jessaustin on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @04:45PM (#22939126)
You describe a different situation than thread parent described.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by bluGill on Wednesday April 22, 2020 @08:39AM (#22944885)
Not exactly. I'm sure the glut will go away, but my error bars are large enough that I'm not comfortable betting on it.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by juped on Monday April 20, 2020 @10:40PM (#22931293)
Paid to take on the futures contract obligation. If you happened to need or want physical oil delivered in Oklahoma a month from today, you got a good deal as futures traders unloaded their contracts.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:21PM (#22927356)
Does it happen often that future contract falls into negative territory?
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by asib on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:27PM (#22927442)
No, this is the first time since oil futures began trading in 1983.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by bhl on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:56PM (#22929117)
The technical term for this is contango [1]. Last time this happened to crude oil was after the GFC, as mentioned in the article.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contango#Description

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by juped on Monday April 20, 2020 @10:45PM (#22931313)
Contango means that futures prices further out are higher than futures prices in the nearer term, and is normal for oil futures; what's notable is the extreme slope of the futures curve we're seeing.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:37PM (#22927556)
So like... why doesn't someone just fill a reservoir or something?
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by scurvy on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:49PM (#22929027)
That's what the strategic petroleum reserve in Louisiana is. They filled massive salt domes with crude oil. The salt keeps away bacteria that can foul the oil.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @06:10PM (#22929276)
Well, that's a little more involved than a reservoir, in fairness. Makes me wonder though if we might see something like this pop up in the private sector in case this happens again. Even a tens of millions of dollar investment in storage would look reasonable alongside the potential profit having millions of barrels of storage would bring right now.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by gowld on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:38PM (#22927575)
You have to dig a hole before you can fill it.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:42PM (#22927611)
Backhoes are cheap. Maybe environmental issues? I imagine someone would have a problem if I just dug a hole and filled it.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by chha on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:50PM (#22927727)
> Maybe environmental issues?

Amongst others. It's not enough to just dig a hole in the ground, you have to make sure it doesn't seep into the ground as well. In addition, you have the always present risk of fire...

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by entangledqubit on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:28PM (#22928143)
Unfortunately, right now it seems that there is incentive out there for oil to "go missing" for a profit -- presumably at the cost of the environment. I'm curious if anyone is thinking about trying to replace their fracking fluid with oil for a while...
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by recursive on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:26PM (#22928756)
Why don't the producers turn down the output? Does it cost more money to produce less? Is it mutually assured destruction? A game of chicken? This is so weird.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by ShamelessC on Wednesday April 22, 2020 @03:17PM (#22949140)
I heard on NPR yesterday that oil producers are concerned that output will be dampened by "turning down the output" because it can make flow rates lower when they reopen.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:31PM (#22928821)
@recursive, I read here that there are contractual obligations in play. Search for jofer@'s answer.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by hcknwscommenter on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @01:24AM (#22932242)
I mean for a "personal" amount of oil, I suppose a backhoe would do. But, to change the front month price, you have to actually store a significant fraction of world oil production (1-2%?). I don't think a backhoe is going to cut it. Then you have to somehow make sure it doesn't plume into the ground water, which is impossible absent very specific geological features or somehow lining the world's largest open pit mine with an impermeable barrier.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:08PM (#22941018)
You don't need to change the price, you just need to sell a contract for the future and deliver the oil then.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by danieltillett on Monday April 20, 2020 @08:18PM (#22930470)
I am surprised there hasn’t been an “accidental” pipeline leak around Cushing. Who could have known that leaving a valve open could dump so much oil onto the ground.