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Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:37PM (#22927556)
So like... why doesn't someone just fill a reservoir or something?
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by scurvy on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:49PM (#22929027)
That's what the strategic petroleum reserve in Louisiana is. They filled massive salt domes with crude oil. The salt keeps away bacteria that can foul the oil.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @06:10PM (#22929276)
Well, that's a little more involved than a reservoir, in fairness. Makes me wonder though if we might see something like this pop up in the private sector in case this happens again. Even a tens of millions of dollar investment in storage would look reasonable alongside the potential profit having millions of barrels of storage would bring right now.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by gowld on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:38PM (#22927575)
You have to dig a hole before you can fill it.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:42PM (#22927611)
Backhoes are cheap. Maybe environmental issues? I imagine someone would have a problem if I just dug a hole and filled it.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by chha on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:50PM (#22927727)
> Maybe environmental issues?

Amongst others. It's not enough to just dig a hole in the ground, you have to make sure it doesn't seep into the ground as well. In addition, you have the always present risk of fire...

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by entangledqubit on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:28PM (#22928143)
Unfortunately, right now it seems that there is incentive out there for oil to "go missing" for a profit -- presumably at the cost of the environment. I'm curious if anyone is thinking about trying to replace their fracking fluid with oil for a while...
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by recursive on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:26PM (#22928756)
Why don't the producers turn down the output? Does it cost more money to produce less? Is it mutually assured destruction? A game of chicken? This is so weird.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by ShamelessC on Wednesday April 22, 2020 @03:17PM (#22949140)
I heard on NPR yesterday that oil producers are concerned that output will be dampened by "turning down the output" because it can make flow rates lower when they reopen.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:31PM (#22928821)
@recursive, I read here that there are contractual obligations in play. Search for jofer@'s answer.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by hcknwscommenter on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @01:24AM (#22932242)
I mean for a "personal" amount of oil, I suppose a backhoe would do. But, to change the front month price, you have to actually store a significant fraction of world oil production (1-2%?). I don't think a backhoe is going to cut it. Then you have to somehow make sure it doesn't plume into the ground water, which is impossible absent very specific geological features or somehow lining the world's largest open pit mine with an impermeable barrier.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:08PM (#22941018)
You don't need to change the price, you just need to sell a contract for the future and deliver the oil then.