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Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by Digory on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:33PM (#22927506)
The negative price has to do with the short delivery date, and the lack of storage at the (landlocked) delivery point. June 2020 WTI is still over $20/barrel.

If anyone had storage to bring online in the next few weeks, in Cushing, Oklahoma, they'd make a killing. At this point, they're going to need to ship it to a port, to get on a tanker.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:41PM (#22927603)
Anyone got a spare oil tanker? :-) I only slightly kid, makes me wonder how quickly I could acquire a number of oil storage units.

edit: this tanker is off the gulf coast right now... https://horizonship.com/ship/274m-suezmax-crude-oil-carrier-...

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by downerending on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:37PM (#22928228)
Actually, I think the real players have already been doing this for a few weeks. If there's a buck to be made, you can bet someone is on it.

I was wondering whether they couldn't rapidly build some new storage (cost-effectively), but probably the answer is no.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by selectodude on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:56PM (#22928439)
I'm not sure there's much of anything that will get the NIMBYs riled up more than a million barrels of crude.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by dsfyu404ed on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:46PM (#22928989)
Add blue collar people to the mix and it acts like a NIMBY rage multiplier. I'm picturing the movie plot now:

A bunch of gulf coast fisherman, effectively unemployed by Corona hatch a plan to make a buck by taking advantage of the negative price of oil futures. They pool their resources and somehow get their hands on a derelict Venezuelan tanker, cheap because of favorable exchange rates, in order to take delivery of some obscene amount of crude as part of a scheme to make money on futures. Being on a budget of course they crew the thing themselves, it's a ship after all, just a little bigger than the ones they usually handle. Things don't exactly go as planned when they travel to Venezuela to take possession of the ship. Their journey from there to the Port of Houston to pick up their cargo is mired by an incompetent coast guard, environmental activists and a vengeful ex-wife turned local politician.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by taneq on Monday April 20, 2020 @09:49PM (#22931054)
Starring Bruce Willis, Angelina Jolie.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by devdas on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @08:07AM (#22934159)
A repurposed cruise ship.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by perl4ever on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:24PM (#22928746)
Who does want a million barrels of crude in their back yard? As a very rough estimate, you'd have to stack them the better part of a mile high in mine.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by hedora on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @01:11AM (#22932160)
I don’t think space is the issue. Shipping and safety (dealing with the one barrel that leaks) could easily eat $40/barrel if you’re not already set up for it.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by jcranmer on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:04PM (#22927903)
That's one of the reasons why spot prices are crashing: we've used up the supply of spare oil tankers to store the oil we're not using.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by rhizome on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:58PM (#22927829)
Just with a cursory "oil tanker for sale" search, they appear to be for sale in the $10-20MM range.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by entangledqubit on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:16PM (#22928025)
Just make sure they don't sell it to you already filled with "thank you" oil...
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:28PM (#22928784)
I mean... Free oil is still free oil, and worth something in the future. Just not as much as being paid to take oil :)
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by ldoughty on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:10PM (#22927957)
If the oil tanker can hold 2,000,000 barrels at -$35/ barrel you are being paid $70 million to store the oil for a few months...

Of course, the next question is who pays for transport to/from the tanker, labor, dock fees, employees in ship (unless you can simply "park" it for a fee)

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by foota on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:30PM (#22928807)
Yeah, I was wondering. I think if someone had the experience needed to put this together quickly it would likely be profitable.

It looks like most tankers are ~200,000 metric tons which at ~8 barrels per metric ton is roughly 1.6 million barrels. You also really only need to store it for a month, I think June futures are around $20 still, and so it's a diff of ~$60/barrel.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by bluGill on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:20AM (#22934684)
Better yet you can play hedging games with your oil. Sell a june delivery contract to lock in your profit now. If June prices collapse buy a contract to take delivery in June and sell one to deliver in July. You never have to get to Port until prices are high enough to be worth actually making a delivery, and you make money every month.

Details of the above are important to get just right. It works out if you get all the details right.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by BloominOnion on Monday April 20, 2020 @09:45PM (#22931025)
Ran some basic figures for 6 months:

Barrels 2000000

lease cost / day $350,000.00

Barrel cost -$37

Take delivery profit $74,000,000.00

After 180 days storage $63,000,000.00

Sell/barrel $20

Net $51,000,000.00

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by scurvy on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:42PM (#22928951)
Did you read the part where I wrote, "there's no place to put the stuff?"

I also specifically said "front month contract".

June oil is barely over $20 today and will probably drop under that mark by week's end.

Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by hectormalot on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @02:42AM (#22932596)
The point of futures is that I could sell my oil _today_ to be delivered in June for $20. Any change in June oil prices from that point onwards doesn’t matter once I’ve sold the contract.
Re:I tried to buy an actual barrel of crude oil (2015) by bluGill on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:22AM (#22934698)
If the price collapses for June you buy a june pick up contract, trade it for your June delivery contract, and sell a July delivery contract. So long as you have the oil and can deliver you can make money on it until prices return to where it doesn't work out at which time you deliver your oil.