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Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by leetcrew on Thursday April 16, 2020 @11:09AM (#22890158)
I bought a DJI spark last year and had a lot of fun for a few months flying it in my backyard. it got stale kinda fast though. it basically flies itself, so just flying around in a field gets boring. on the other hand, at $400, it was a little too expensive for me to feel comfortable trying any daring shots with it. I made some cool aerial panoramas, but the camera isn't really good enough to make anything worth sharing. if you want to get decent pictures, you have to spring for one of the $1200 models, which are still only about as good as a high-end smartphone camera.

I did find one killer use-case for it though: cleaning gutters. the house I was living in at the time was designed in a way that made cleaning gutters very dangerous. I used the drone to see which parts actually needed cleaning, then my roommate would clear them using a long pole with a hook while looking at the camera feed. awkward, but much safer.

Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by tibbydudeza on Thursday April 16, 2020 @11:17AM (#22890256)
We are on a 4 week country wide Covid-19 lockdown stay @ home and as part of the regulations they banned all alcohol sales.

Some entrepreneurial person now does drone deliveries of booze within a 5km radius of his home.

Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by lososos on Thursday April 16, 2020 @11:53AM (#22890651)
>as part of the regulations they banned all alcohol sales

For my curiosity, would you mind sharing where this is? It contrasts with my experience in the US, where I know a few states made it easier to sell alcohol.

Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by seretse on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:32PM (#22891646)
Dude's name ends with ZA which is the TLD for South Africa
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday April 16, 2020 @02:09PM (#22891953)
Holy crap, this is insane: https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/lockdown-alcohol-ban-st... .

I can't imagine trying to get through this quarantine without at least some booze, and I rarely drink. How are they handling all the bonafide alcoholics that would go into DTs with this?

Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by smabie on Thursday April 16, 2020 @09:59PM (#22895527)
Having lived in Africa for 2 years (not SA though), I guarantee that the reason for the ban is for the government to profit off of bribes. Whenever something doesn't make any sense in Africa, the answer is always the same: bribes.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by aaronax on Thursday April 16, 2020 @07:12PM (#22894538)
Also Bahamas has no liquor sales, and crazy tight lockdowns every weekend where you can't leave your house for groceries even.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by richardw on Thursday April 16, 2020 @04:06PM (#22892951)
And cigarettes. Smokers must be going insane.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by ApolloFortyNine on Thursday April 16, 2020 @02:44PM (#22892224)
Pennsylvania closed their state run liquor stores.

Virginia/West Virginia/Ohio's are still open, I'm pretty sure across the whole U.S they're still open.

Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by thruhiker on Thursday April 16, 2020 @04:56PM (#22893465)
Wow that's crazy. In Seattle liquor stores, breweries (take-away only), beer bottle shops, and marijuana stores are all included under the "essential" exemption. I can't imagine the upheaval we'd have if the government had shut them.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by AustinDizzy on Thursday April 16, 2020 @04:03PM (#22892915)
The northern counties of West Virginia have also issued a prohibition order for all non-residents, so that only West Virginians can purchase alcohol because apparently there have been hundreds of cases of Pennsylvanians crossing the border just to buy alcohol.

Some find this order reasonable, but most in WV find this irresponsible of both WV and PA since alcoholics cutting cold turkey can be hospitalized for their withdrawal symptoms.

Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by yonig on Thursday April 16, 2020 @03:08PM (#22892430)
I have friends in the philippines (Manilla specifically) who told me this
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by RankingMember on Thursday April 16, 2020 @11:21AM (#22890299)
That's gotta be a pretty powerful drone- booze isn't light!
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by leetcrew on Thursday April 16, 2020 @11:24AM (#22890345)
involves a lot of trust, too. I imagine the customer has to detach the shipment by hand. a drone capable of delivering a fifth of liquor must be worth at least $1-2k. considering the whole operation is likely illegal for several reasons, I doubt the owner would have much recourse if someone just stole it.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by s1t5 on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:11PM (#22890824)
But then no more fly-in alcohol. The booze-drone is like a 21st century golden-egg goose.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by trhway on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:48PM (#22891229)
> I doubt the owner would have much recourse if someone just stole it.

well, just let everybody know who broken the deliveries and thus made the whole neighborhood gone dry :)

Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by smabie on Thursday April 16, 2020 @10:01PM (#22895538)
He probably has a camera on it. And let me tell you, you don't want to fuck with the wrong South African. They will kill you.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by oh_sigh on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:37PM (#22891693)
Serving up the pre-packaged/airplane shots would be fitting.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by Ididntdothis on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:04PM (#22890764)
Good idea but I can’t imagine this being legal.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by libraryatnight on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:36PM (#22891100)
The problem I ran into wasn't a lack of things to do with my drone, but a lack of places in which to do them. It's really hard to find places that are worth shooting that also allow drones. that said you can get away with doing it anyway, since most rules are based around not being a dick so if you don't bother people nobody will say anything, but it still sucks you're technically breaking rules/laws.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by AdamJacobMuller on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:23PM (#22891547)
Go to the woods.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by leetcrew on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:29PM (#22891602)
if you're just worried about actually getting caught, any isolated place will do. if you care about following the law strictly, it can be nontrivial to figure out what's allowed. there are federal, state, and local rules about where drones can be flown, and they are sometimes written in weird ways.

as an example:

> Launching, landing, or operating an unmanned aircraft from or on lands and waters administered by the National Park Service within the boundaries of [insert name of park] is prohibited except as approved in writing by the superintendent.

depending on how you interpret "operating", it might be legal to launch your drone just outside the park limits, stand there with the controller, and then fly it all over the park to your heart's content (provided you land it back outside the park). if an official actually saw you doing this, they might hassle you without regard for the nuance of the law.

Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by throwanem on Thursday April 16, 2020 @02:53PM (#22892305)
NPS rangers tend to be fairly proddy, in my experience. Before all this started, I spent a fair amount of time photographing birds in national parks with a 200-500mm tele, and I've found it rare to encounter a ranger who doesn't remind me that commercial photography is forbidden there, on the assumption - in my case at least, the false assumption - that anyone with kit like mine must be a professional.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by iamatworknow on Thursday April 16, 2020 @03:55PM (#22892848)
I went to a park last year with my (pretty large) camera bag, and one of the rangers there asked me to open it to prove it wasn't housing a drone.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by Ididntdothis on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:03PM (#22890756)
My use case for a drone would be to look at the surrounding area when I am doing off trail hiking or on old abandoned trails. Is it worth to go through the thick brush and the trail continues or will it just get worse? I have been thinking about getting a Mavic Mini for this but these things never go on sale.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by AdamJacobMuller on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:22PM (#22891537)
I do this while off-roading with my Jeep.

It's not always perfect, but, it's damn useful.

One time I was traveling along a particular trail which started to get very, very rough. Not 100 feet away was a parallel trail which was well travelled. It would have been impossible to see without the drone.

Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by leetcrew on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:33PM (#22891059)
depending how far ahead you want to look, you might be able to get away with a spark for this use case. you can find good deals on the first generation at this point, and the new one isn't too expensive anyway.

if you care about following all the FAA rules, this may limit the usefulness of a "scouting" drone, as you need to be able to see the aircraft with your own eyes at all times. if you're in a wooded area, this might not be very far.

Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by Ididntdothis on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:35PM (#22891090)
I wouldn’t mind something that has less image quality and a range of only 1000m but is smaller and weighs less. The Spark is a little big for a long hike.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by leetcrew on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:58PM (#22891325)
I misspoke before; there's no new spark. I was thinking about the mavic mini at the same price point (which you mentioned). it weighs about 250g. any lighter than this and you're probably looking at toys that can't fly any appreciable distance.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by ezconnect on Thursday April 16, 2020 @03:02PM (#22892387)
Spark is already affected by winds and actual usage on a forest plus winds can get you that range of 1000m, anything smaller will not have the endurance for real life usage.
Re:GoPro cuts workforce, changes sales strategy by driverdan on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:43PM (#22891739)
The Spark takes reasonably decent video. There's no reason why you couldn't share it.