I started disentangling myself from Atlassian products a few years ago but I was still using Trello. Clearly that's going to have to stop.
No work stuff is hosted in my personal accounts, and work accounts are always created with a separate e-mail. I can just remove myself from everything work related without touching anything personal.
While I was working with a small group, we had our own domain and e-mail addresses as a perk. My relationship went sour with the lead of the project and, as a power move, she disabled my e-mail and other accounts related to that group, guessing that a lot of stuff is connected to this e-mail (since the domain was prestigious in that circles) and doing so will hurt me a lot.
Since only things related to the group/work was on that e-mail, literally nothing happened. I just broke off cleanly from the group and, a move designed to hurt me brought bliss to the parting process.
So do it the same way every other website on the planet does it: have an organization and users who have roles within that organization. It's beyond aggravating the way they have them so strongly linked.
> Two, nothing can happen to your personal account based on the actions of the company page or other people associated with it.
.... I'm guessing this hasn't happened to you. Yes, they will block your personal account for "certain" infractions committed by the business manager. Nearest I can tell it depends on how you set up the business. If you set up the business FB page first, your personal account is considered primary so all blame flows to it. If you set up the business manager first, and THEN set up the page using the business manager (NOT the page creator), then it won't affect your personal account; and if you invite someone, no, that person's account won't (generally) be affected either.
Except that FB always drives you to create the business PAGE first and LATER suggests the business manager... thus increasing the likelihood of blocks. It's pathological. Especially because you can blocked for nothing other than their AI misidentifies something in an ad or a post, kills all your accounts, and then you have to beg to get them back.
Point is, that relationship shouldn't exist in the first place.
I have yet to figure out how to deactivate that.. but since they're separate users (vs secondary email), I don't think the same will happen. But who knows? Not me.
Good luck getting this straightened out.
I really don’t recommend using in-app dual logins (for example Gmail’s dual login), and stick to using separate Chrome profiles or Firefox profiles, so that none of the cookies are shared. Even with that, I’ve had surprises with my mobile phone number being the only shared information between two Google Ads accounts, and Google mixing my data, but avoiding sharing cookies is really important.
That is also what I recommend my employees. « You can use Facebook or Youtube at work, but not in the same Chrome profile. »
You don't need separate Firefox profiles for that, you can use Firefox containers.
Firefox Containers are awful.
Only firefox profiles can give you true separation.
It would have been better if Mozilla had added a better interface to profiles.
Profiles in Chrome and their ease of use (Cmd+Shift+M to open a new window in a different profile) is the primary reason I still use Chrome over Firefox. I have a Personal, a Work, and a Development profile. The development profile is where I install dev extensions like React Devtools, Redux Devtools, etc. because they require full access to all sites in order to function. I don’t do regular web browsing with devtools installed. These tools seem trustworthy, but why risk giving them access to everything I do on the web?
I’ve tried Firefox Containers and can’t find the same power and ease of use Chrome Profiles have.
Thinking over about you said, now I think I like things from the two worlds, maybe better interface to containers or even better UI for profiles, with options to overcome the containers (maybe should be better for the average user instead of having both).
For the time being, I prefer to have both options (don't have it now) but I think both can be improved.
One might argue that chromium is, but in my opinion using chromium only enforces google chrome
But I prefer profiles myself, as I have different extensions in different profiles and I get the two completely separate instances of Firefox, while containers are just separate tabs instead.
I don't think containers are awful though, they are just less useful for my use case than profiles.
Do you ever experience that?
Would allow greater discovery if this `about:profiles` page was exposed somewhere in preferences, but at least there is something I guess.
$ cp /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop .
$ vim firefox.desktop
Add -P onto the end of the 'Exec' line. Now your click button for firefox will open the profile manager.
Any details, how do they leak?
> Only firefox profiles can give you true separation
I don't think they would help a lot against fingerprinting. (I have no idea how commonly used fingerprinting is at the moment.)
Extensions, mostly. You have to be real careful which extensions you install because extensions run at the window level (mostly) rather than the container level and see across/through containers.
Also things like auto-fill (including password suggestions); if you like that being very specific to context, then you'd want different profiles rather than containers.
I've found I've been using a mixture of profiles and containers, myself, to balance ease of access (containers are fast to launch and can auto-launch per specific sites) versus better extension control and auto-fill/etc separation.
(ETA: As for finger-printing, both containers and profiles are equal on the most common finger-printing: cookies and localStorage. Neither protects you well from IP Address tracking, which is a growing concern, but not the approach of at least the big players like Google or Facebook, yet.)
Do you have any sources or reasons for this condemnation?
Also, you can backup/restore/move profiles independently of each other.
Also, you can have different network settings for different profiles (not sure you can do that with containers).
For example I have a profile whose network connections are such that traffic is forwarded through a socks proxy (implemented via ssh). That's basically an ultra-simple vpn. I can then (via a script) automatically launch the tunnel open firefox with the appropriate profile and then exit firefox and gracefully stopping my tunnel.
Mozilla even has two official extensions, trying to explore the space of ease of use/user expectations. In addition to the main multi-container extension they offer Facebook Container which is an extension designed to be more entry level but for folks worried about privacy. (It does what it says on a tin, creates only one additional container, names it Facebook, and automatically moves all Facebook tabs and pretty much only Facebook tabs into it.)
I like to have several Container Tabs open all logged in to different accounts at the same time
Google Accounts fall into this category these days. Possible I’ll deprecate my use of those, as I don’t use gmail or drive any longer.
I have all my data backed up. I won't use a device or service that does not allow me to back it up.
Nice open source self hosting alternative.
Would love to get feedback!
The multiple account login used to work the same way it works for github now. The boards were very clearly labeled under the email/username they were created and clearly had the ownership well defined. As soon as I left the company and my email was disabled, all the boards under that email disappeared from my account. This was expected and kept using my primary email (i always used to login with my username) and completely forgot about an attached secondary email (which anyways is now deactivated). Fast forward 5 years with tons of personal boards under this account, one morning it stopped working without any notification (yes i revised my spam to be sure about it) with all my data gone.