Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by fortran77 on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @02:08PM
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What's scary is that CPAP machines are allowed on airplanes. If they really aerosolize virus particles, maybe they shouldn't be.
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Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by fragmede on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @06:54PM
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I don’t want to alarm you unnecessarily, but they let ordinary people with virus aerosolizing equipment (lungs + diaphragm) onto airplanes, currently.
Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by fortran77 on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @09:12PM
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There's a special, enhanced, risk with CPAP that authoritative medical sources warn about.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3338532/
I'm not sure I get your point. Did you have one?
Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by dpeck on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @02:17PM
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At least on Delta flights they’re not allowed to be used, I’m not sure if the same policy exists on other airlines.
Edit: I was wrong, see below
Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by reaperducer on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @02:25PM
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I'd be very surprised to see any airline restrict the use of a medical device onboard. The manual that came with mine states that airlines are required to let you use it, and the manufacturer sells an airline-friendly battery pack. Do you have a link to Delta's policy on this?
Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by dpeck on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @02:33PM
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My mistake, I was wrong. They allow use, but it has to have its own power supply https://www.delta.com/us/en/accessible-travel-services/assis...
Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by cameldrv on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @03:12PM
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This would seem to be because they don't want to be held to providing medical grade reliability of electricity to the seat.
Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by fortran77 on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @06:26PM
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I've sat next to people using them on Delta and United. Of course, I'm not without empathy for people who depend on them. But if a person has a viral infection that can be spread through droplets, this can be a very dangerous situation. If I'm ever in this situation again, I'll ask to be reseated. If they can't do that, I'm not sure I'd want to fly.
Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by rswail on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @02:33AM
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You'd better not let someone sitting next to you breathe, or cough, or sneeze then.
When I'm using my CPAP, my mouth is closed and I'm asleep. I'm breathing through my nose, which has hairy filters in it, plus a mask that has a filter on its exhaust, plus the machine has a filter on its inlet.
Please stop the knee-jerk reactions. CPAP devices and aerosolized droplets are a problem if you know the patient is infected and you are up close to them putting the masks on.
Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by fortran77 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @10:27AM
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These are not "knee-jerk" reactions.
There's a special, enhanced, risk with CPAP that authoritative medical sources warn about.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3338532/
Let's be civil here and assume good faith.
Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by gruez on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @02:19PM
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The parent commenter only mentioned that it exhausts aerosolized virus particles, not that it produces any. Do they emit/amplify aerosolized virus particles themselves? If so, by what mechanism?
Re:Airbreak.dev: Jailbreak your CPAP machine to turn them in...
by Ericson2314 on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @03:33PM
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If anything, more tubing would might condense humid lung air in the walls so whatever leaves the tubes is drier.