Re:Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M...
by billfruit on Sunday April 12, 2020 @11:12PM
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May be they should restrict it to 2 or 3 words without punctuation.
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Re:Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M...
by pishpash on Monday April 13, 2020 @03:28AM
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If it's 3 non-repeating unordered words, the minimum vocabulary will need to be 256*3 = 768. Realistically you'll need an order of magnitude larger. That's a pretty large vocabulary.
Re:Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M...
by suyjuris on Monday April 13, 2020 @05:45AM
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It is a minor point, but 467 words would suffice, as there are 16865705 possibilities to choose 3 elements out of 467. (This is the smallest possible.)
Re:Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M...
by _0ffh on Monday April 13, 2020 @06:36AM
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Strictly speaking, yes, if you just view it as unordered sampling without replacement. Although that would squeeze out nearly all of the creative side of things.
Re:Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M...
by bottled_poe on Monday April 13, 2020 @03:35AM
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That’s not right. 256 * 255 * 254
Re:Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M...
by _0ffh on Monday April 13, 2020 @04:32AM
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I suspect you didn't catch gp's meaning: To get to 24 bits of color info, you'd need at least 3 words of 8 bit info each. If you want these to be non-repeating and unordered that makes 256x3=768 unique words.
Re:Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M...
by samatman on Monday April 13, 2020 @05:40AM
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This isn't correct though.
You need 256 base words, and two substitute words, one of which substitutes for the first repeat, and the other for the second, so 258 words total.
Re:Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M...
by IanCal on Monday April 13, 2020 @06:37AM
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That accounts for the repeating but not the ordering, right?
Re:Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M...
by samatman on Monday April 13, 2020 @04:17PM
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Oh, by 'unordered' you mean that the three words could be in any order and still mean the same thing?
Okay but that's a strange requirement. A 'big burger house' isn't a 'big house burger', after all.
I had read 'unordered' as 'the collation order of the words has no connection to the ordinal rank of the underlying byte', for some reason
Re:Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M...
by IanCal on Monday April 13, 2020 @07:04PM
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I'm just jumping in where I saw a misunderstanding :) I think that's what they mean by unordered as that makes sense with the numbers (I think).
To some degree I agree, but there are also a lot of cases where different orders aren't distinguishable easily. "Light bright red" and "bright light red" is the best I can come up with quickly but I'm sure you get the idea.