Re:Zoom rolled their own encryption scheme, transmit keys th...
by baq on Saturday April 04, 2020 @06:04AM
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People are political animals. The only way to avoid politics is to avoid people. Not exactly a workable proposition if you want to change the world with a billion dollar unicorn.
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Re:Zoom rolled their own encryption scheme, transmit keys th...
by dang on Sunday April 05, 2020 @03:08AM
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I think that's true, but it's also true that the distinction between curious conversation and ideological battle is a useful and actionable one, and that's basically what the site guidelines are staked on: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
Re:Zoom rolled their own encryption scheme, transmit keys th...
by DeathArrow on Saturday April 04, 2020 @06:21AM
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So, if we can not avoid politics it is ok to encourage some views while discouraging the opposite views?
How can we know for sure we are right or even on the good side, whatever "good" means?
Re:Zoom rolled their own encryption scheme, transmit keys th...
by deltron3030 on Saturday April 04, 2020 @07:00AM
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First we'd need to establish a general frame of reference, a perspective, which could be a human one.
From that perspective, the lowest common denominator is that bad is what harms humanity, e.g. by disregarding human rights. Human rights then becomes the new frame of reference, meaning that something can't be good if it's not within that frame.
Re:Zoom rolled their own encryption scheme, transmit keys th...
by akimball on Saturday April 04, 2020 @04:30PM
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Power struggle then becomes what are rights, and who owes them to whom? Who gets what rights and how are they enforced is pretty much the core of political struggle.
Re:Zoom rolled their own encryption scheme, transmit keys th...
by deltron3030 on Sunday April 05, 2020 @12:54PM
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Power struggle based on immediate and future system relevancy takes place within that frame (innovation), in a democracy that frame (human rights) shouldn't be broken because it damages the belief in the system itself. An informed society acts in its best interest, if it doesn't the education system or entire system is corrupted and broken.
Re:Zoom rolled their own encryption scheme, transmit keys th...
by smaddox on Saturday April 04, 2020 @03:56PM
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Perhaps it would be better to assume (until clear otherwise) that everyone has good intentions, but a different persp ctive? Then we can try to work together, as partners, to understand each other's perspective and position, rather than thinking of others as opponents to be defeated.