Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by dahdum on Friday April 03, 2020 @06:01PM
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Cool concept, but the books I compared were 20-50% higher than Amazon, and they charge another $3.50 to ship in 7-10 days.
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Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by throwaway_pdp09 on Friday April 03, 2020 @06:53PM
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Haven't read the article but like what you say, I tried to get a book from waterstones, a UK bookshop on my high street. I don't mind paying 20% or 25% extra as I don't like amazon and I do want to support local bookshops but when they cost that much more and they don't have it in stock and can't tell me when they will get it in, I say screw you and go with amazon.
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by Obsnold on Saturday April 04, 2020 @04:41AM
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I recently bought a book from waterstones online but only because amazon would have taken at least 3 weeks to get it to me. It was the same price as amazon but I did have to pay a couple of pounds for postage.
Though another reason to not buy amazon is to avoid fakes. I have bought a book from amazon that was clearly fake.
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by tartoran on Friday April 03, 2020 @10:43PM
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In order to avoid amazon I get my books from abebooks. Sadly today I just found out Abebooks is owned by Amazon.
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by jrmg on Friday April 03, 2020 @11:07PM
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Alibris is basically the same thing and not owned by Amazon.
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by wdb on Friday April 03, 2020 @07:06PM
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Actually, occasionally Waterstones is actually cheaper than Amazon :)
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by Guest42 on Friday April 03, 2020 @07:24PM
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To me seems as though amazon pricing has gone up and I am happy to pay a little more and wait if it helps to establish a more competitive market and to reduce counterfeits, fraudulent selling, and over-fit ML recommendations that make it difficult to browse into new areas
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by jfim on Friday April 03, 2020 @06:57PM
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Amazon typically sells books below MSRP, whereas it seems that Bookshop sells at MSRP (ie. the same price that you'd buy the book in a brick and mortar book store).
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by Pfhreak on Friday April 03, 2020 @08:19PM
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Is cost the only variable to optimize for? The commodity is the same in both places (barring some reports of counterfeits in Amazon's stock), but is the labor?
I'd argue that buying from Amazon has some externalities that aren't captured in the price (particularly in their treatment of labor). I pay more for some times of food that avoids things I consider negative externalities, I'd do the same for books and other commodities. That's just an opinion, though, feel free to disagree.
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by dahdum on Friday April 03, 2020 @08:43PM
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The cost is a factor, but the 7-10 day delay is far worse for me and it’s ~$10 shipping to get 2-3 day delivery.
Also, do we know for sure the Ingram warehouse employees are better treated than Amazon?
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by beaunative on Friday April 03, 2020 @08:58PM
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To be honest, Amazon shipping works because it's a monopoly. They don't care how much you buy, it's almost the same for the company, they have to hire the same amount of staff, and same paid hours, at least in urban area. But for any independent store, they have to negotiate a rate with a shipper, which would charge a flat base rate, and overweight if there are any. So it can be difficult for them to offer quality and fast shipping in terms of cost. In a way, they are less efficient than Amazon.
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by anamexis on Friday April 03, 2020 @10:06PM
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Bookshop fulfillment is handled by Ingram Content Group, a massive book distribution and logistics company, and itself the biggest distributor to independent bookstores.
Disclosure: I work for a child company of Ingram
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by celeritascelery on Saturday April 04, 2020 @09:34AM
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The reasons makes no difference to an end consumer. They just care about the services provided.
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by khabibthyme on Friday April 03, 2020 @08:46PM
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I don't disagree in theory, but I don't understand how Bookshop protects indies from Amazon in a way that selling their books directly doesn't, especially if they don't offer an advantage on price or convenience.
Re:Thanks to Bookshop, indies stand a chance against Amazon
by jschwartzi on Friday April 03, 2020 @07:13PM
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On the other hand I might actually be able to buy technical books on here which gives me a way to stop buying anything from Amazon.