Re:New Intel Instructions for Alder Lake, Also BF16 for Sapp...
by chx on Thursday April 02, 2020 @12:49PM
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> I think that's true if 7nm progress is independent of 10nm, and the mistakes made with 10nm aren't also delaying 7nm
That is exactly what's happening
Re:New Intel Instructions for Alder Lake, Also BF16 for Sapp...
by keanebean86 on Thursday April 02, 2020 @05:36PM
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7nm was planned for 2017 as of 2014. Ouch.
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/41582/intel-to-hit-10nm-in-20...
Re:New Intel Instructions for Alder Lake, Also BF16 for Sapp...
by chx on Thursday April 02, 2020 @07:00PM
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That's just early optimism, as far as these things can be known from the outside, the process is fine very much unlike 10nm which was known to be broken for years even before Cannon Lake.
Re:New Intel Instructions for Alder Lake, Also BF16 for Sapp...
by justAnotherNET on Thursday April 02, 2020 @01:51PM
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7nm intel is EUV, 10nm intel is quad patterned DUV. Massive difference.
My understanding is that Intel's 14->10nm shrink was the most aggressive in the industry, promising to yield a greater increase in density than the geometry would imply, when usually there's a loss factor and the density increase isn't as good as you'd naively expect.
Even after 10nm was delayed by quite some time, Intel pointed to this and declared they weren't lagging the industry as the shrink was closer to a 1.5 node shrink.
If the 10nm delay was the result of this aggressiveness and Intel was well in to developing 7nm in a similar fashion before it became obvious how 10nm was going to turn out, this may not be a matter of skipping over a single bad apple.