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Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by iLemming on Thursday April 02, 2020 @01:31AM (#22756486)
I'm not angry only because it affected me. Besides, I also rent and my rent is high. And I am an immigrant in this country, I have no relatives, nobody to ask for help. I have two kids and a wife who cannot work and we don't have any savings. We literally live from a paycheck to a paycheck. If I don't earn money for two, three weeks in a row - we are basically homeless. So please don't tell me how lucky I am.
Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by bradlys on Thursday April 02, 2020 @01:56AM (#22756578)
Genuinely curious, are you living in the US? (You seem to be located in SF Bay area) Living paycheck to paycheck isn't something I hear about much. (in regards to people working in tech within the US)

It might not help now but I would highly advise you learn how to budget better and grow a sizable emergency fund.

I genuinely have a hard time believing someone is living paycheck to paycheck (even in the bay area with two kids - where housing is extremely expensive) on a senior software engineer salary at a startup. ($180k/yr) I know people who manage it. It's not a comfortable life but it's stable and they can still save. I mean, they have to. They're not gonna be able to buy their options when they quit if they didn't save.

Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by exolymph on Thursday April 02, 2020 @02:25AM (#22756705)
> I would highly advise you learn how to budget better and grow a sizable emergency fund.

Genuinely wondering, do you think that this insight simply hasn't occurred to him? The obstacles to someone spending less money are generally more complicated — even when they're within the person's control at all — than simply "start budgeting better." You're being condescending and providing no value.

Also, I bet that you know more people living paycheck-to-paycheck than you realize.

Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by bradlys on Thursday April 02, 2020 @03:45AM (#22757009)
If they're living paycheck to paycheck and in tech, I do wonder if basic financial literacy has escaped them. It's not uncommon for people in this field to maximize for one skill only at the cost of all other knowledge.

I've met enough people in this field who are completely inept when it comes to anything that doesn't involve typing code.

Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by cloverich on Thursday April 02, 2020 @10:24AM (#22759306)
> do you think that this insight simply hasn't occurred to him?

There's this duality where we appreciate there are many out there who truly cannot downsize their lifestyle to accommodate, and we should sympathize. But of the people I know personally in these scenarios, all of them could easily budget better. And again, in my personal experience, its always a pretty simple evaluation and decision. Its deeply frustrating to see someone I know complaining about how tight things are, but then buying a better car than me, better computer than me, better phone than me. Going out to eat all the time. Etc ad infinitum. So while certainly there are factors outside our controls, I'd wager a lot that the average high salary earners (e.g., HN crowd) do have simple budgeting choices they aren't making. I won't presume much about OP, this is mostly in response to your comment about it being condescending. It is. But, in reality, for many and perhaps most high earners, it really is simple, and sometimes people do need to be called out to realize it.

Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by Can_Not on Thursday April 02, 2020 @01:07PM (#22761156)
IME if you're assuming anonymous internet poor person is like your strawman friend who bought a nicer car than you, you're already assuming they have a lot more money than they actually do.
Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by cloverich on Thursday April 02, 2020 @02:30PM (#22762043)
Not using strawmen, using actual people, none of whom earn as much as an entry level programmer in the US. It was a counter point to a common generalization. I believe completely there are many in the US who must budget well and barely get by. I've seen it. But I'm skeptical the average HNer falls into this category.
Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by nickpeterson on Thursday April 02, 2020 @04:59AM (#22757290)
HN commenters see someone having a life crisis and start debugging...
Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by sumofi on Thursday April 02, 2020 @03:31AM (#22756953)
Perhaps that person really never heard that.

Nonetheless shouldn't the society tell you something like this?

Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by danielrpa on Thursday April 02, 2020 @06:03AM (#22757543)
Yes, but this is probably not the best time to do it. We don't know anything about their life - maybe their situation is caused by poor financial management, but maybe there are other factors at play, such as a lawsuit, high medical or student debt, helping family back home etc.

OP, I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I hope you can find a new position soon. Try to stay positive - this too shall pass.

Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by djeikyb on Thursday April 02, 2020 @02:23AM (#22756697)
This is maybe a time for you to listen and learn about the experiences of others. Not, as you've done, call a stranger financially incompetent or insinuate they're lying.
Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by abiogenesis on Thursday April 02, 2020 @02:03AM (#22756616)
The GP hasn't mentioned US, but even then, if they have recently immigrated they might have spent most of their savings.
Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by dpau on Thursday April 02, 2020 @03:14AM (#22756894)
a lot of people are losing their jobs, my wife lost her job and i'm furloughed. but the skills that made you and i so valuable before still make us valuable now and in the future. so i do think we are lucky, despite everything. things will get better!
Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by cpach on Thursday April 02, 2020 @04:54AM (#22757265)
That sucks. I hope you will find a new job soon!
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Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by te_chris on Thursday April 02, 2020 @04:52AM (#22757256)
This is a supremely callous comment given the comment you’re replying to. The world, and particularly this poster, doesn’t need you to point this out to them.
Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by warlog on Thursday April 02, 2020 @04:53AM (#22757261)
Good luck, bad luck...
Re:Ask HN: I lost my job by iLemming on Thursday April 02, 2020 @01:26PM (#22761342)
According to Forbes, over 53 percent of workers in the US alone are extremely unhappy with their jobs. Yes, we are very privileged to get to do what we love and also get paid for it. But that has little to do with the luck. Being a successful software developer is about passion, grit, and determination.

It is a hard job. We are expected to know everything related to software: you have to know a bit about graphics design, UI and UX, be a writer, a project manager, site reliability and devops engineer , infosec expert, understand encryption and networking, be a QA specialist, know back-end and front-end, understand hardware, operating systems, databases, distributed systems, know concurrency, be a manager and a lead and a good team player, be an expert of a few and be familiar with a dozen of programming languages, understand different paradigms - OOP, logic and relational, functional, stack-based, etc. You have to be consistently and continuously learning new things. You cannot ever stop. And we love that.

Very often you have to pay the price for that love. You get neck and back problems, RSI, myopia, excess body fat, swollen hemorrhoids, gastritis, depression, etc.

And you can never expect to hear praise for anything you do. Programming is extremely subjective when it comes to evaluating the quality of work done. It is so easy to criticize. I have seen people criticizing code written by Linus Torvalds, John Carmack, Richard Stallman, Rich Hickey, and others. No one ever said: "look at this piece of code; this is so deep and profound, it should be carved in stone."