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Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by clairity on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @03:14PM (#22741308)
> "...suicide by defenestration..."

as an aside, my first thought at this phrase was that "he died by removing all the windows?" it took a second to process that properly.

but to the point, that's the kind of anti-competition we need to root out quickly. compete on merits, not on demerits.

i'm sad about the embark app, but i'm hoping that the dark sky integration means no more sending data (however "anonymized") to the shady data broker that is the weather channel.

Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by Someone on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @03:37PM (#22741578)
For those who wonder: it’s not a neologism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestrations_of_Prague:

The Defenestrations of Prague (Czech: Pražská defenestrace, German: Prager Fenstersturz, Latin: Defenestratio Pragensis) were three incidents in the history of Bohemia in which multiple people were defenestrated (thrown out of a window). The origin of the word "defenestrate" ("out of the window") is believed to come from the episodes in Prague in 1618 when the disgruntled Protestant estates threw two royal governors out of the castle window and wrote an extensive Apologia to this act.

Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by thinkloop on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @04:08PM (#22741914)
> This drove Armstrong to suicide by defenestration

For those who are extra slow like me: he killed himself by jumping out of a window.

Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by zyngaro on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @06:30PM (#22743447)
Lol in French defenestration is literally death by jumping out of a window.
Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by yyx on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:24PM (#22745330)
In English too
Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by clairity on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @04:00PM (#22741841)
yes, mine was more a temporary confusion between the common notion of the "de-" prefix in english (~"remove") vs. latin (~"out of").
Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by rhizome on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @08:26PM (#22744366)
Funnily enough, they're two different Latin word elements. Simplified, there's the "down" de-, as in "destroy," and the "undo" de-, like "defrost." The "undo" de- is also the "not" de- and the "away" de-, related to dis- ("disallow", "discard").
Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by PaulHoule on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @04:28PM (#22742180)
Who needs the weather channel when we have the national weather service publishing forecasts on a 1km x 1km grid?

Is the value of the weather channel that investors expect the national weather service to be abolished?

Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by ceejayoz on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @05:22PM (#22742748)
> Is the value of the weather channel that investors expect the national weather service to be abolished?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/11/25/weather-i...

"In 2017, Trump nominated Barry Myers, the former CEO of AccuWeather, a company that has advocated for the privatization of large parts of the National Weather Service, to lead NOAA. However, his nomination stalled, in part because of conflict-of-interest concerns since his family still owns the private forecasting company."

Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by Spooky23 on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @06:35PM (#22743484)
Myers doesn’t want to abolish the weather service, he wants to limit who gets the data they collect.

It certainly wouldn’t be profitable for Accuweather to have to do things like gather weather data and have supercomputers to analyze.

Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by yborg on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @05:56PM (#22743102)
The value of these APIs is that they aggregate data worldwide. I don't want to write against the API of every national weather service in the world.
Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by clairity on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @04:46PM (#22742372)
no, to clarify, apple has been using the weather channel (exclusively, i believe) for weather info across its ecosystem. you can't get integrated weather info on apple devices (iphone, watch, etc.) without it (you can download other apps but they wouldn't integrate with the OS).

i'd be super happy if they switched to the national weather service, but absent that, dark sky is more privacy preserving than the weather channel (who reportedly sell location data, for example).

Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by rapind on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @03:51PM (#22741726)
This is a systematic problem with crony capitalism. It will always be with us so long as lobbying and corporate campaign donations are a thing.
Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by kevin_thibedeau on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @04:02PM (#22741866)
Fingers crossed that all the shenanigans preventing cheap ventilators coming to market will force some regulatory action.
Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by Godel_unicode on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @05:20PM (#22742725)
By shenanigans, do you perhaps mean the rigorous testing regime applied to a device which will literally be putting the air in your lungs while you're unconscious??

I for one am super happy that people with this attitude have been totally unable to penetrate the medical devices field!

Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by kevin_thibedeau on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @10:26PM (#22744995)
You might want to read about the sort of malfeasance that has put us in this situation:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/business/coronavirus-us-v...

TLDR: A $3000 ventilator was “on schedule to file for market approval in September 2013” and then Covidien bought out the competition to prevent it coming to fruition.

Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by Godel_unicode on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @02:20AM (#22746218)
Covidien at the time already sold a $5000 portable ventilator, which was never rejected by the FDA. The prospective Newport ventilator was rejected for neonatal use, which was a requirement of their BARDA contract.
Re:Apple acquires Dark Sky by simonh on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @06:15PM (#22743298)
A badly made ventilator can kill you a lot faster than the virus.