Re:You’re not writing code, you’re solving problems
by acdha on Sunday March 29, 2020 @09:08AM
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Art has always had constraints: funding, the physical media’s capabilities, and the ability to reach an audience. This is why any time a new technology shift happens there’s a spike of artists trying things which were not previously feasible.
Re:You’re not writing code, you’re solving problems
by amelius on Sunday March 29, 2020 @09:09AM
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It's a spectrum. I just wrote down the two ends.
Also, an artist's constraints are often self-prescribed, and they can easily change them if they like.
Re:You’re not writing code, you’re solving problems
by blondin on Sunday March 29, 2020 @10:11AM
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> Also, an artist's constraints are often self-prescribed, and they can easily change them if they like.
the most amazing art (both graphics and music) i have seen on computer were from atari, amiga, & c64 demosceners. these artists had real software and hardware contraints.
i like what you said about it being a spectrum though. i think it's hard to tell when engineering becomes art and art becomes engineering. but one can easily spot pure (for its own sake) engineering or pure art.
Re:You’re not writing code, you’re solving problems
by lioeters on Sunday March 29, 2020 @11:06AM
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There's also a fair bit of "engineering for engineering's sake" (as a parallel of "art for art's sake" - "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_for_art's_sake), "divorced from any didactic, moral, politic, or utilitarian function".
Re:You’re not writing code, you’re solving problems
by thaumasiotes on Sunday March 29, 2020 @09:10AM
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This is reminiscent of the old divide between mathematics and philosophy:
true and useful = math
true and useless = philosophy
Re:You’re not writing code, you’re solving problems
by ken on Sunday March 29, 2020 @01:09PM
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What occupation, I wonder, was the person who coined that joke? Compare:
"It is not possible to justify the life of any genuine professional mathematician on the ground of the 'utility' of his work." (G. H. Hardy, 1940)
Re:You’re not writing code, you’re solving problems
by wwweston on Sunday March 29, 2020 @09:22AM
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Which side does the practice of distinguishing between the useful and the useless fall on?
Re:You’re not writing code, you’re solving problems
by blondin on Sunday March 29, 2020 @10:04AM
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philosophy decides :)
Re:You’re not writing code, you’re solving problems
by abjKT26nO8 on Sunday March 29, 2020 @10:08AM
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I wouldn't bet on the "true" part in philosophy. More like nonsensical.
Problem solving with real-world constraints = engineering
Problem solving without any constraints = art