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Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by raaaaraaaa12 on Friday March 27, 2020 @06:44AM (#22701767)
We have face mask mandatory now in Czech Republic, Italy scared us and goverment reacted quickly. Its not over yet but we are on the right track.

https://news.expats.cz/health-medical/breaking-face-covering...

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by aneutron on Friday March 27, 2020 @07:05AM (#22701877)
Can you please attest to the correctness of the news about the Czech government stealing a shipment of masks that was meant to be delivered to Italy [1] ?

If so, is there something the "outsiders" are missing (e.g. some political bs between the two countries) ? Or is it just plain old theft ?

[1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-czech-...

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by raaaaraaaa12 on Friday March 27, 2020 @07:11AM (#22701909)
https://www.radio.cz/en/section/curraffrs/why-chinese-masks-...

Czech authorities during a customs raid last Tuesday mistakenly seized 101,600 facemasks gifted by a branch of the Red Cross in eastern China to a Chinese community in Italy. Although Czech officials apologized for the mix-up, the Italian newspaper La Repubblica on Sunday published a bogus article claiming the Czech state had “stolen” that shipment – and much more.

Czechs would send 110,000 facemasks to Italy on Monday (March 23), dispatched along with an evacuation bus of 43 Italian nationals heading home, as agreed with the Italian Embassy in Prague.

--- My comment is that our goverment officials or those policemans are probably stupid...

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by TeMPOraL on Friday March 27, 2020 @09:17AM (#22702577)
> --- My comment is that our goverment officials or those policemans are probably stupid...

Or they thought "better safe than sorry", given that smugglers aren't stupid and you can't just believe it was sent by Red Cross just because the courier says so.

If anything, I'd ask why La Repubblica published a bogus article.

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by hguant on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:56AM (#22703296)
>If anything, I'd ask why La Repubblica published a bogus article.

Seasons come and go, but click bait is eternal

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by krab on Friday March 27, 2020 @08:48AM (#22702419)
It's not clear how the masks appeared in that storage. It may be well possible the masks were stolen by somebody who wanted to sell them. The company owning the storage didn't comment.

The masks were sent to Italy within a few days.

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by rat9988 on Friday March 27, 2020 @07:12AM (#22701920)
Why does he have to? You can do your research on internet nowadays and be just as well informed as him.
Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by rfrey on Friday March 27, 2020 @08:02AM (#22702159)
A good faith interpretation of aneutron's comment is that they heard this report on Reuters; saw the author is from the Czech Republic and thought it was a good opportunity to find out about "local news" on the issue to get a different perspective.

Agree it sounded confrontational, but it probably wasn't.

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by aneutron on Friday March 27, 2020 @09:56AM (#22702832)
You are correct. There are generally some "hidden" fact. Like some news outlets try to run the story as something that it isn't. It was not confrontational at all.
Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by ttoinou on Friday March 27, 2020 @07:16AM (#22701940)
Not the whole world speaks your language :-)
Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by Kiro on Friday March 27, 2020 @08:21AM (#22702264)
How does that work when it's impossible to buy masks anywhere?
Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by krab on Friday March 27, 2020 @08:57AM (#22702471)
A lot of people was/is sewing them at home. My wife (data scientist in a normal life) made some for our family incl. grandparents and also for some neighbours. A link from a local "Etsy" [1].

The government even made an exception so the sewing supplies shops could open.

[1]: https://www.fler.cz/zbozi/oboustranna-rouska-11339514

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by ceejayoz on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:20AM (#22703013)
They're making their own.

Sometimes, quite stylishly: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/president-slovakia-coronaviru...

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by 0x38B on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:34AM (#22703124)
Wow, that same article says "As a reminder, you don’t need to wear a mask unless you are sick"...
Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by ardy42 on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:57AM (#22703312)
> "As a reminder, you don’t need to wear a mask unless you are sick"...

But of course, you may not know that you're sick... so wear a mask.

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by avmich on Saturday March 28, 2020 @01:03AM (#22709333)
Mask obstructs airflow. After some hours spent without fresh air somebody gets a headache.

Your mileage may vary, of course.

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by i_am_proteus on Friday March 27, 2020 @08:51AM (#22702440)
A t-shirt or bandana or scarf will make an excellent makeshift mask. This is not the equivalent of an N95 mask that should be used by health care professionals, but is good for ordinary citizens in public.
Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by m4rtink on Friday March 27, 2020 @09:46AM (#22702764)
Yep, especially as the main purpose of the mask is to protect you from potentially infecting others. Asymptomatic carriers are a huge problem for the coronavirus pandemic - people might be spreading it without knowing and might only get ill much later.

By using even a very rudimentary mask, the infected droplets have it much harder to get out to other people and to contaminate surfaces. Also you are less likely to touch your face, so less hand contamination & thus less surface contamination.

Of course this only works if everyone has a mask, but given how easy it is to make simple cloth masks I think this is a fully reasonable requirement.

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by largespoon on Friday March 27, 2020 @09:02AM (#22702497)
Try aliexepress
Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by ardy42 on Friday March 27, 2020 @11:00AM (#22703342)
> Try aliexepress

I'd be surprised if that worked at all. At least one Chinese ecommerce website is preventing foreign IPs from even viewing item listings for masks. When you try to view the item from the search results, it gives you an error saying something like export is prohibited.

Also China has pretty much shut down air travel to the country to prevent "imported cases," so air freight capacity from is greatly reduced: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/world/asia/china-virus-tr...:

> The halt to almost all international passenger flights in and out of China will make it even harder for other countries to import N95 respirators, disposable surgical masks and other personal protection gear from China for their own doctors and nurses. About half the world’s airfreight typically moves in the bellies of passenger aircraft, while the rest travels aboard air freighters.

> Previous, large-scale cancellations of passenger air services to China have already created an acute shortage of air cargo capacity over the past two weeks.

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by ceejayoz on Friday March 27, 2020 @12:24PM (#22704246)
> About half the world’s airfreight typically moves in the bellies of passenger aircraft, while the rest travels aboard air freighters.

Turns out we can just keep those passenger aircraft flying.

https://www.wired.com/story/airlines-use-empty-passenger-jet...

> But Monday afternoon, Delta said it’s putting an unspecified number of passenger jets back in the air, flying out of 13 American airports and to 70 destinations overseas. Delta’s not selling any tickets for those planes, however. Rather, they’ll be operated by Delta’s cargo arm, running charter flights to cater to anyone who needs to move a package or pallet.

Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by bitexploder on Friday March 27, 2020 @11:10AM (#22703431)
I ordered a number of masks yesterday from Aliexpress. It works. Shipping is slower than usual, but not crazy.
Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by Kiro on Friday March 27, 2020 @12:27PM (#22704273)
Can you really say it works until you've actually received them? What masks did you order by the way?
Re:How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting E... by bitexploder on Friday March 27, 2020 @12:47PM (#22704476)
Well, I ordered some a couple weeks ago and got them as well. Been distributing them to neighbors.