That's what you get with an incompetent leader in the US :)

His means of communication is impulsive use of Twitter, so I don't know how you could expect something different.

Angela Merkel and many others. You have to know that we don't have the 1 guy is all principle.

A leader here is a communication channel after internal discussion in their party. If there's a rotten egg ( eg. Like in Hungary) the democratic system will adjust to filter him out after a while.

It's slower, yes. But it's less confusing and I think it's a good thing. No wild bull situations like in the US.

I would say that I very much liked Obama. A lot of charisma, he also notified the EU about some things but he did it with a sense of decenty. Which shows clear intellect and respect.

Have you lived in Germany under Angela Merkel's rule or you're out here naming people who aren't Trump? I've lived in Germany for 2 years, left for Ireland because of poor government, who due to their inability to take care of their own people, have resuscitated a right wing that will stop at nothing. If that's what you call a competent leader then you need recalibration. I'm from an African country which has seen crazy high numbers for visa applications to the US as well as overstays because their economy is doing. I haven't lived under Trump's administration so I can make a call here (even though I've started investing heavily in US companies and reaping amazing results). So call Trump incompetent, but when you have to come up with an example of competence please dig deeper. That said, ask the Nigerians and other West Africans whose relatives are sold into slavery via Libya about what they think of Obama. Just to be circumspect.

Extending the topic to right parties in the same country, slavery in another country and personal investments in the short term seems a bit far-fetched to prove your point ;)

Long term, I'd say the economic impact of the tax reduction is laying an unacceptable burden on US financials as a country. And someone else will have to clean up.

But hey, we live in a democracy. Everyone can say what they think ;). It doesn't mean they are right though

Well you can't talk about competence while looking in only one direction, you know?

Expecting one person to solve the world problems is a bit irrational.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

Is there a leader in the EU as blatantly criminal and kleptocratic as Trump?

From all Americans, I want to apologize for our stupid fucking leader.

40% of Americans don't want you to apologize on their behalf [0]. From a Canadian, this type of comment is exactly what is driving your country apart and what lead to the election of Trump in the first place.

[0] - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/...

What is your suggestion for unifying with people who support a leader who has abused his power in broad daylight over and over again? And who has abused that power to avoid punishment for other abuses?

It seems pretty fundamental to me: It's a matter of if are you okay with a blatant authoritarian if he's in your side. I don't know how to bridge that cultural difference in how we wish our leaders to behave.

Just show the world how dumb Trump really is, instead of showing/suggesting how he is getting money in a corrupt way.

That's how you convince people who don't like/hate the traditional system.

Go talk to them, listen to them, sympathize with them, you know, be a compassionate human instead insinuating their stupidity by outright calling someone they support stupid.

It's not an insinuation.

Who can't see that Tr. is in politics for his own pockets is it too.

I've added a lot of pointers already. But another one is to look up the documentary about his son in law: Kusher Properties.

They are literally made for each other and not in a good way.

Other comment for handling a different argument.

I joined a big discussion group to see how I could convince people ( > 8000 Dutch members on Facebook).

While I took a lot of effort for 5 months to reason with the outliers of the group.

I had concluded that it was not possible to reason with outliers since they used "Whataboutisme" and the only effective way to convince other people and "shut them up" ( I know it sounds rude) was to actually be rude, handle their current arguments and point out the idiocracy of the arguments they were using ( hence the harsh term used).

My effectiveness rate went from 4-5% to almost 90% in having the "last" argument. It also seemed to greatly reduced the amount of pointless topics started by that person.

There was only once someone effective in working arround it, using "doubtful" sources.

Are you replying to the right comment? Nothing in my comment said anything about Trump or his supporters' intelligence in any way.

I disagree with your second conjecture. The polarization of United States has been largely due to bankcrupting its middle class of its industry, paying off executives(not literally, but due to allure of making cheaper goods in China), social media and Russian interference in the election of Trump.

This is a grand plan of Russia and China to divide western nations, increase internal anti-US propaganda to bolster their authoritarian regimes.

You're pointing to the symptoms, not root cause. And this is exactly what the communist regimes want the west to do - fight against each other. Just wait before Canada get's roped in all of this as well.

It's already happening in Canada. Look at our last election [0]. A clear divide between Toronto and Western Canada. It was a very sad day for me to see my country completely torn in two with both sides cementing themselves in place.

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Canadian_federal_election

The Soviet Union ended 30 years ago and reducing China's government to "communist regime" is at best naive and ignorant and at worst deliberately misleading.

You're right, I'll edit to to "authoritarian" regimes. What I meant was that authoritarian goverments cannot afford dissent and try everything to supress.

We know, no worries ;)

Our partnership has been stable and long. No idiot can change it in just one term.