The fines against Manning have been commented on repeatedly and extensively in this very thread. The only thing your comment adds is rage, which we have already have a surplus of, even if it's all justified.
The wretched flamewar your comment set off was predictable and a perfect example of what this site is not supposed to be for. No more of this, please, regardless of how you feel about justice departments.
All: upvoting this kind of comment—the kind that obviously and egregiously flouts the site rules—is the kind of thing that eventually gets your votes dropped on Hacker News.
Either way, with immunity granted, there's no Fifth Amendment peril there.
She claimed a lot of legally nonsensical things on stand so I'm not sure any of it passed any scrutiny. It certainly didn't with the judge.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/chelsea-m...
That Trump ever got elected - or was ever seriously considered as a candidate - tells me that enough of the the population is seriously disturbed that I’d like nothing to do with it.
And then there’s the war atrocities...
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Edit: we've had to ask you this three times already. Not cool, so please stop.
This was the President that was supposed to shine a light on corruption and protect whistleblowers when they first campaigned.
The joke here is you think there's that much of a difference. One acts bad and does bad things, the other acts good and does bad things. The only difference is the media loved the last one and hates the new one.
You're right in some respects Obama is worse. I definitely feel like I could have a beer with him, but fuck me if he didn't do things as bad as Bush or worse. People called Bush the same names they called Trump now, so it doesn't mean as much anymore.
If you actually believe this, you grossly lack a sense of scale. Multiplying Obama's actions by 100 doesn't come close to starting the Iraq war.
Got involved in Syria.
He kept Guantanamo open.
He upped the number of drone strikes. Knowingly killed a 16 year old US citizen who was not an enemy combatant or in a country like Iraq or Afghanistan.
He extended the Patriot Act.
All things he criticized Bush for.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13577464/...
What he promised: "my first day in office, I would give the military a new mission: ending this war". [1]
That's not the same as "pull out".
> Got involved in Syria.
"Got involved" in an already ongoing crisis, and arguably a direct result of the Iraq war, is not the same as starting the Iraq war. Not even fucking close.
Syria: 2.5k troops [2] Iraq: ~300k troops [3], and we've been there 20 years.
Like I said, multiply Obama by 100x...
On the remaining points, I'm not claiming Obama was great on these issues. My only claim is that if you think Obama even remotely compares to Bush in terms of the amount of destructive policy the two brought about, you lack a sense of scale and perspective.
1. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/p...
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-led_intervention_in_t...
Further even Pelosi in her speech today wasn't having any of the media's crap where she basically says we are working together on this no need to make it anymore then that. Good one Pelosi.
Also is there a guide to follow on how to deal with the coronavirus?
The truly sad part is that the Democratic party seemingly hasn't learned anything in the last four years, and are well on their way to dooming us to another four years of Trump.
In my state, NAFTA fucked over a lot of people, people working factory jobs are now working two jobs, Clinton's brought that into reality, and she still advocated for that and other trade deals like TPP. Bernie might have had a chance then, because he stood against it, he's since said things like "white people don't know what its like to be poor", turning it into a race issue instead of a class issue, stopped talking about worker rights, he sure doesn't now, even without the DNC's help, people watched how the DNC played Bernie and rigged things against him, changed the rules and sacrificed their morals to let billionaire in and keep saying anyone they don't like, even on their own side, is a Russian asset, they know they're just as dishonest. They see rich white people at the top of the DNC, the people the DNC says we're supposed to hate, and recognize the sheer hypocrisy of it all. In the last 4 years they've sinked to Trump's level, and got down in the mud with him.
And right here, in this thread, we are playing "guess my motive".
It's too bad I am 99.9% certain you just want to argue, so I won't waste my time.
Take coal mining towns. Here was Clinton's plan for helping them [1]. Trump's plan was to cut environmental regulations and somehow coal towns would become great again.
[1] http://static.politico.com/b8/90/cbbc9c59413089d87e8d6340f13...
And when, after another four years, the wall still hasn't been built, globalism and automation still haven't been dismantled and the mines and domestic factories still haven't reopened, America's prestige still hasn't been restored, China still hasn't been broken, the Middle East still hasn't been pacified, and there still isn't a chicken in every pot and two cars in every garage, who will they turn to?
You seem to be dismissing those explanations simply because you don't like them and you reject the idea that it could be true of so many people. But you aren't actually providing any evidence against these explanations. Simply exaggerating them to the point that you think they can be dismissed as unreal doesn't work. There's a mountain of evidence that large numbers of people can and will passively tolerate evil policies and continue to vote for their proponents on the basis of issues they care more about. There's plenty of evidence that large numbers of people can and will vote for candidates who are making empty promises to them. There's plenty of evidence that large numbers of people can and will reject sound information about reality when it conflicts with dearly held beliefs.
Nobody (except perhaps you) is trying to say that Trump's success boils down entirely to those two factors that can be described as "evil" and "stupid" when taken to the extreme. But it's quite reasonable to conclude that those are indeed very important factors to his success and support.
Basically, the US is a good place to make a lot of money, esp. in the tech sector, as long as you avoid spending like a drunken sailor or getting married and having kids. Health insurance is expensive, but the much higher salaries much more than make up for that (but maybe not so much if you're supporting a wife and 3 kids). Education isn't an issue, or shouldn't be: the scenario we're talking about here is someone who's already out of college. (But here again, having kids will ruin the advantage, if you're paying for them to go to college.) Housing is overpriced in the US, yes, but it is in Canada too. If you think anyplace outside the Bay Area is bad, try looking at housing prices in Vancouver BC.
As for retirement, there's a reason so many US citizens become expats when they retire and move to places like Costa Rica.
Where the US really falls down is if you need a social safety net, if you have health issues (which can result in medical bankruptcy in the US), if you want to retire and not eat cat food, if you want to go to college without being saddled with enormous debt, etc. But if you have tech skills and can snag a high-paying tech job in the US, you'll probably save a lot more money for that time. But you should have an exit plan. A lot of people from places like India come here and work and live for many years, saving up a lot of money, and then go back home and live like kings.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/torontosun.com/news/provincial/...
Canada is like the US because the Canadian enconomy is so intertwined with the US when the Dow Jones drops 10% in a day Canadians hurt too.
Canada is like the US because Wuhan Fever is killing their citizens too.
Canada is different from the US because if one of their citizens gets sick regardless of having insurance they will get the same treatment as a billionaire will, and if they get sick first they will get treated before the billionaire.
Canada is different from the US because if a Canadian billionaire gets sick they will just go to the US, pay the money and get treated before any US citizen does.
Canada is different from the US because even though the Prime minister wore blackface, as far as I know he never grabbed any women by the P000sy!
If you're talking about Trudeau, it took me literal seconds on Google to find the sexual harassment allegations against him.
Trump was on a hot mic, it's not a "he said she said" in his case, it just a "he said". Don't get me wrong I think Trump did exactly what he promised to do, I was just pointing out the differences between the US and Canada. ;)
BTW there has been a few US Mayors that got caught smoking crack in the past too! Which is also very sad.