Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by Zolomon on Monday March 09, 2020 @02:18PM
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Where have you read that it spreads during the incubation time? So far Swedish epidemiologs have not seen any evidence of that fact.
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Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by swsieber on Monday March 09, 2020 @02:20PM
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I've heard 1-14 days with an average of 3 days, but I'd have to dig up sources. But even if the long incubation periods are rare, they'll still have an outsized impact.
Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by toohotatopic on Monday March 09, 2020 @02:27PM
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>average of 3 days
That should be 'mean'
Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by vikramkr on Monday March 09, 2020 @02:33PM
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Mean is a type of average. And for communicating to the public, unless there's a strong reason otherwise, statistical jargon should absolutely be avoided in favor of more universally understood terminology.
Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by toohotatopic on Monday March 09, 2020 @03:53PM
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Even worse, this is a total blunder, I meant 'median'.
Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by Someone on Monday March 09, 2020 @02:27PM
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Also, what would the mechanism be? Coughing is the ‘normal’ mechanism to move viruses out of your lungs.
If it spreads before the coughing starts, i.e. during normal breathing, doesn’t it get out of your body too easily?
Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by Blahah on Monday March 09, 2020 @04:21PM
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The virus accumulates in digestive organs and sheds in fecal matter. Gastrointestinal (fecal-oral) infection route seems likely.
See:
- https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.14.20022939v...
- https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.20.20025601v...
> Compared with SARS, COVID-19 was transmitted in a more diverse way, from person to person, asymptomatic infected people and possible fecal-oral transmission, created the conditions for a large-scale spread.
- https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.17.20023721v...
Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by allovernow on Monday March 09, 2020 @04:24PM
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I've grown tired of pulling up sources on mobile but publications claim the virus accumulates in nasal passaged during incubation. Also thought to play a role in the high false negative rates for testing.
Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by Blahah on Monday March 09, 2020 @04:32PM
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This is also true - digestive and respiratory organs appear to accumulate the virus most. Also heart and liver, which explains the high co-morbidity for people with damage to those organs.
Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by allovernow on Monday March 09, 2020 @04:43PM
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Looks like any organ with ACE2 receptors.
Re:Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Tests the Limits of Democracy
by Blahah on Monday March 09, 2020 @04:33PM
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Lots of reports of this, for example: http://www.chinaxiv.org/abs/202002.00078