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Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by dylan604 on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @08:25PM (#22480397)
>3. Space habitats are more convenient and cheaper to move between than leaving or even entering a gravity well like Earth's.

I have always thought that this would be a much more efficient way of living off Earth. Sci-fi wants us to believe that we can teraform planets. All they ever talk about are the atmosphere generators. However, they never address the reason the planet didn't have an atmosphere to begin with. To me, the research into generating artificial magnetic shields is the place to be. Generating those fields the size of a planet will be orders of magnitude more difficult than for smaller sized ships.

Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by Beldin on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @10:02PM (#22480860)
> Sci-fi wants us to believe that we can teraform planets.

Given or current sample size of 1, clearly we can.

It's the part where the teraforming produces a more habitable planet that we haven't gotten down yet.

But hey, this is only or first attempt!

Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by dylan604 on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @12:03AM (#22481337)
I'm sorry, what? Are you claiming we have created a livable atmosphere on another planet? Where? Which one? Are you talking about Earth? Humans did not create the Earth's atmosphere. We can barely "fix" the damage we do to it. "Fixing" is not creating.
Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by suby on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @12:35AM (#22481442)
He is saying that we are currently transformong the earth's atmosphere into a less hospitable one through a process of pollution / emitting greenhouse gases.

In my view, given that we can do this, it is not unreasonble to assume that one day we will know enough to be able to tweak a planet's habitability in the opposite direction, or in other words, make an inhabitable planet habitable.

Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by mcv on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @09:10AM (#22483864)
> "make an inhabitable planet habitable."

Aren't those the same thing? Shouldn't this be "make an uninhabitable planet habitable"?

Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by suby on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @10:48AM (#22484715)
Yeah, my mistake.
Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by viraptor on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @10:51PM (#22481069)
Why magnetic shields? If the planet is large enough, you get gravity for free. If not, a magnetic field wouldn't help with atmosphere. (Or am I missing something?)
Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by dylan604 on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @12:00AM (#22481327)
The magnetic shield has nothing to do with trying to keep people on the surface.

The Earth's magnetic Van Allen belts deflect most of the sun's nasty radiation streaming at the planet. These belts are created by the molten iron core of the planet. Mars no longer has this magnetic shield, and the sun's radiation burned off the atmosphere. If we generate new atmosphere, it will just get burned off again unless we can generate some way of deflecting that radiation.

Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by dogma1138 on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @02:29AM (#22481855)
Aren’t most terraforming estimation put the time frame of atmosphere erosion at a few 100M years?

If we you can create an atmosphere it should last for a long enough period to be worth it, heck it might outlast humanity.

Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by gambiting on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @02:50AM (#22481915)
That still doesn't solve the radiation problem(at least on mars). What's the point of colonizing Mars if we'd all have to live underground anyway? Might as well try doing that on Earth(or the Moon) first.
Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by andai on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @12:09AM (#22481360)
I think it's for solar and cosmic radiation.
Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by ralusek on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @09:28PM (#22480709)
Or, you know, just use walls and glass.
Re:SETI@home shuts down after 21 years by dylan604 on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @09:34PM (#22480740)
Building habitable structures on a planet's surface is not the same as making a planet's entire environment capable of supporting humans. That's the point of teraforming which was the point of the comment.