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Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by bad_user on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:07PM (#22426116)
Masks don't help because of low quality and people lack proper training... you shouldn't touch the mask, you shouldn't reuse it, you should properly dispose it, etc.

A saner advice is to wash your hands frequently and to avoid touching your face when in public. Because you can get this virus by touching infected surfaces and then touching your face. It doesn't seem to be an airborn virus, but it does survive on surfaces.

I cary a hand sanitizer for those moments in public when I feel the need to scratch my face :-)

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by jakkals on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:15PM (#22426207)
> It doesn't seem to be an airborn virus, but it does survive on surfaces.

I just read this last night, and from this I had the impression that it is an airborne virus, and that surface spreading is not the main vector:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/transmission...

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by xboxnolifes on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:30PM (#22426373)
The "airborne" transmission in that link is what I believe is called "aerosol transmission", not airborne. Because it relies on liquid droplets in the air, and not actually able to transmit on something like dist in the air.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by jacquesm on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:33PM (#22428682)
Thank you for correcting that. Big difference between the two and people will happily play 'Chinese whispers' with these bits of information leading to a totally different overall picture.

Airborne transmission doesn't require any other medium than the air itself, even dust is optional.

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by jakkals on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:35PM (#22426426)
There is also transmission (actually the first one mentioned) "Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet)"--this does not mention liquid droplets at all, which is why I figured it to be airborne.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:51PM (#22426607)
That's because many people are disgusting and don't give a fuck about proper hygiene. Just among my acquaintances I need both hands an a foot to count the number that don't even vaguely cover their mouth / nose -- let alone _properly_ cover -- while coughing or sneezing.

No amount of gentle reminder -> passive aggressive suggestion -> explicit suggestion had lasting effects on their behavior. All I could do is be vigilant and recluse myself from their company whenever one's clearly showing symptoms.

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by mercer on Thursday February 27, 2020 @11:55AM (#22435019)
The number of people I've seen 'properly' covering their mouth when they sneezed, with their hand instead of, say, elbow sleeve, and then touching all the things, is worrying.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by eveningcoffee on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:08PM (#22428477)
Wearing simple masks and glasses (!!!) would then protect against this vector.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by mrfusion on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:35PM (#22428699)
Is any virus truly airborne?
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by jiscariot on Thursday February 27, 2020 @10:58AM (#22434359)
Measles is indicated as airborn transmission on the R0 wiki[1]. It is pretty crazy with an R0 of 12-18.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by RaceWon on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:09PM (#22428486)
> A saner advice is to wash your hands frequently and to avoid touching your face when in public

I wouldn't use a urinal either (I never do anyway, as a former licensed plumber, thosef'n things are NASTY imo). I also flush twice with my back turned before using a public toilet.. not ideal but better than not I think.

I work in hospital

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by u801e on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @07:18PM (#22429026)
> I also flush twice with my back turned before using a public toilet.. not ideal but better than not I think.

Flushing toilets leads to aerosolized water droplets from the toilet spreading around the room and contaminating nearby surfaces[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by RaceWon on Thursday February 27, 2020 @07:13PM (#22439393)
I know, but so does peeing into it. At least when you flush it's re-diluted.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by joering2 on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:12PM (#22426176)
Masks do help and you explained why. Its harder to touch your face, nose, lips when wearing a mask. So it does help fight the spread and getting yourself sick easier.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by veemjeem on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:26PM (#22426339)
is it possible to reuse a mask if you put the mask through an autoclave?
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by drcode on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @04:24PM (#22427501)
You might be able to use UV-C light sterilization. Strangely, these types of lights are all suddenly sold out on amazon, wonder why... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W1PHS9P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b...
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by pmoriarty on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @07:20PM (#22429034)
Remember that light can only sterilize the surfaces it contacts. It can not sterilize beneath the surface.

So if droplets containing viruses penetrate beneath the surface of the mask, sterilization with light will not be able to reach them.

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by drcode on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @10:24PM (#22430135)
Obviously something like this would only make sense under extreme circumstances, when you have to leave the house, but can't use a fresh mask every time, because of shortages.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by JshWright on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:30PM (#22426381)
An N95 isn't going to survive an autoclave...
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by veemjeem on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:30PM (#22428652)
I think my P100 filters might survive an autoclave. They are the pink disc kind from 3M. Pressure cooking only goes up to 121C @ 15psi, so it isn't as hot as it may seem.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by JshWright on Thursday February 27, 2020 @07:17AM (#22432588)
It's not just the pressure and the temperature, it's also the steam. Autoclaves are are pretty nasty environments, and I wouldn't trust a filter that had gone through one. It's very likely the filter medium would have been degraded.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by cactus2093 on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @05:44PM (#22428265)
I assumed the reason not to re-use them is that the paper mask structurally wears out and no longer creates the proper seal on your face.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by veemjeem on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:33PM (#22428676)
what about the P100 filter cartridges used on half/full face respirators? Those have a plastic skeleton with a rubber gasket.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by kps on Thursday February 27, 2020 @10:46AM (#22434241)
They last indefintely, i.e. change the filter when it becomes clogged, which will be approximately never if you're not actually using it in a dusty environment. But check the manufacturer's instructions.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by reddog on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @07:40PM (#22429179)
What if you microwaved it? To be clear, I don't have any idea if this works or not, I'm just asking. And of course it couldn't have any metal parts.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by thatcat on Thursday February 27, 2020 @04:27AM (#22431877)
That works for sponges but it breaks the material down pretty fast. You could possibly use ozone to sterilize the masks if you sealed a container and let it sit at a proper concentration for the correct time period.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by djmips on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @07:14PM (#22428993)
I heard a report that soaking them in salt water and allowing it to completely dry can destroy viruses as the salt crystals from. YMMV. Web search for more information.