Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

Re:Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic... by senordevnyc on Monday February 24, 2020 @12:55PM (#22406429)

See, there you go again. You’re suggesting that someone young and healthy should be more concerned about the flu, which is absolutely ridiculous and not supported by any data. The only “evidence” you posted is that the elderly and sick are most at risk, which no one was disputing, and which does not support your position that the flu is more dangerous to young and healthy people than this virus.

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Re:Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic... by mercer on Monday February 24, 2020 @05:39PM (#22409204)

For someone 'rational' and 'cool-headed' you seem awfully hysterical, peppering this entire discussion with your certainty. It's fascinating.

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Re:Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic... by JoeAltmaier on Monday February 24, 2020 @04:01PM (#22408393)

This one has a 3-4% death rate and debilitating, lifelong consequences for those that 'recover'. Its a big deal.

If denial makes one feel better, go for it. Post it here though, and expect to be rapidly disabused.

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Re:Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic... by irq11 on Monday February 24, 2020 @04:09PM (#22408478)

It does not have a 3-4% fatality rate. You are either getting bad information, or you are making things up.

The latest numbers from the WHO and the CCDC are an average case fatality rate of 2.3%. This is highly likely to be an overestimate, and the deaths are skewed heavily to the old and infirm.

From the most recent CCDC report [1] those under 40, case fatality was 0.2%. Under 50, 0.4%; under 60, 1.3%.

For those with no pre-existing illnesses, case fatality was 0.9%, across all age groups.

[1]http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/id/e53946e2-c6c4-41e9-9...

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Re:Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic... by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @08:49AM (#22413131)

Note the fatality rate is deaths divided by current infected. But the people dying are those that contracted the disease 4-5 days ago (folks don't die the instant they get sick). So the death rate on folks ultimately reaches nearly double the reported rate?

But draw your own conclusions:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...

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Re:Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic... by irq11 on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @09:44PM (#22419803)

No. This is completely incorrect.

The case fatality rate is the number of deaths divided by confirmed infections. This is what is being reported.

Infection Fatality Ratio changes the denominator to a model for the currently infected population. This is a smaller number, because the denominator is much larger.

There is no mortality metric being reported by reputable sources that is multiples higher than the CFR, as you suggest.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situati...

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Re:Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic... by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @03:25PM (#22426935)

Or, look at the timeline for infection vs eventual fatalities. As I said, draw your own conclusions from the reported data by Johns Hopkins (do they pass the filter for 'reputable'?).

The most useful number I know is, survival chances. How many in 100 stand to be alive say 2 months later. The numbers seem worse than 98, by a good margin. At least worldwide.

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