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Re:The AI delusion: why humans trump machines by ben_w on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:35PM (#22271865)
Your second quote sounds like a fairly straightforward description of P-zombies to me: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie

However, to add to the criticism you have of this article about this book, your two quotes taken together appear to be contradictory: if consciousness is a fundamental element of living matter, then given that we can make new living matter, why should there be any reason we can’t make a conscious artificial machine?

Re:The AI delusion: why humans trump machines by edflsafoiewq on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:53PM (#22272014)
P-zombies are magical nonsense.
Re:The AI delusion: why humans trump machines by goatlover on Saturday February 08, 2020 @08:30AM (#22275607)
Magic has nothing to do with it. P-zombies are a philosophical thought experiment against physicalism. The point of the argument is to demonstrate that a purely physical description leaves out conscious experience. Nagel made the same point regarding bat sonar consciousness and science’s view from nowhere.