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Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by StavrosK on Sunday February 02, 2020 @07:40AM (#22216672)
Isn't "descendre en bas" just "to descend down"?
Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by newleaf on Sunday February 02, 2020 @07:59AM (#22216723)
I imagine it’s redundant because down is the only way you can descend.
Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by StavrosK on Sunday February 02, 2020 @08:06AM (#22216739)
Yes, I mean that's a more accurate translation that carries the redundancy better.
Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by simias on Sunday February 02, 2020 @10:51AM (#22217430)
I considered it but I thought that "to descend" was too rare and formal in English to really carry over how the phrase truly feels in French. "I descend down" decidedly feels much more awkward than "je descend en bas" to me, if only because I've heard the latter a lot and the former probably never.

"I climb up" might give a somewhat better impression of how "je monte en haut" sounds in French, although I suppose that you can very much "climb down" in English so it's not a perfect match.

Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by dmurray on Sunday February 02, 2020 @01:26PM (#22218419)
It's idiomatic to say "I rise up" or "I raise X up" in English, which are analogous though not translations. English just loves prepositional verbs.
Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by StavrosK on Sunday February 02, 2020 @10:54AM (#22217454)
Ah, I see, and both "climb up" and "climb down" are used, so it's not equivalent, you're right.
Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by sum_of_zeros on Monday February 03, 2020 @02:35PM (#22228044)
unless you're trapped in some escherian[1] world?

[1]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._C._Escher

Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by matt_the_bass on Sunday February 02, 2020 @09:41AM (#22217100)
Yes but “descendre” and “monter” can mean other things in other contexts. So I feel the redundancy is from poor translation.
Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by shean_massey on Sunday February 02, 2020 @05:40PM (#22219981)
Exactly! Translation is tricky business.
Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by skoob on Sunday February 02, 2020 @09:04AM (#22216944)
Sure, although to descend feels a lot more formal than descendre does in French.