To me it does, it's irritating, like "to go up upstairs" (“monter en haut”). But most people evidently don't care, journalists do it all the time now.
I think it comes down to familiarity with expressions (or acronyms), as you explain. The more you internalize what a conjugate thing is, the more it becomes its own — and grammar be damned on the way, as logic evidently isn't the only path to understanding/speaking (perhaps not even the most common).
Monter en haut: to go up (not specifically stairs, contextually maybe, could just as well be an elevator or a tree house ladder for example)
Monter a cheval: to get on a horses back
Monter un meuble: to assemble furniture (think ikea)
The noun here is not irritating, it’s essential.
Also, there are proper ways to say “monter en haut”! — monter à l'étage, monter l'escalier, monter dans sa chambre, etc.
Speaking of which, I find that it's particularly important to speak properly around kids, it reinforces good logic, thoroughness I think. My parents were like that, I've always been like that, and I guess I'll do the same to my kids, haha.
thanks your majesty, queen of fuckin england was it, yea?
you can acronym "on s'en fout" as osef for a general "no one cares" and then rebuild osef as a verb : "je m'osef", "tu t'osef" etc...
reflexive
At least in Germany/German language, if you use such a redundant wording, you are often considered to be not very knowledgeable. In the 90s, some people even loved to point out that SMS is the name of the service - the message is an SM (oh, the funny puns that can be constructed from this fact).
No, we use it to emphasize that what we're talking about is as of today, but we can't make projections on the future.
You would use it in a sentence like : au jour d'aujourd'hui there are 'only' 300 deaths from the Chinese virus (implying that you don't know if it's going to get much worse or not).
But I'm sure the French are not the only ones to elevate some bad grammar/style to a level of consensus. Proof that languages are living things!
http://www.acronympolice.org/?page_id=90
>3.2 Multiple Repeat Violations: A section 3 paragraph 2 offence occurs when multiple redundant acronyms are used in the course of a conversation. An example of a section 3 paragraph 2 violation would be “Honey, what is your PIN number, I need to take some money out of the ATM machine. If I have to go into the bank, they are going to ask for my SSN number and I can’t remember it”.
It varies from community to community. Some say it all the time, others laugh as soon as someone says it, and everything in between.
It's not like "RIP in peace"
When someone asks, "Do you remember your PIN?", I'm thinking about sewing needles or medallions for a second -- if they didn't add the word "number". On the other hand, the acronym ATM is so common that I don't feel the need to say "ATM machine" anymore; I'll say "Where's the nearest ATM?" and expect that most people will immediately understand it without having to think about what it stands for.