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Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by LaserToy on Friday January 31, 2020 @10:57PM (#22208554)
Anyone here actually believes it is only Airbus???
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by xbmcuser on Saturday February 01, 2020 @03:13AM (#22209392)
In most of the developing world/3rd world countries to get any contracts you need to bribe the politicians. So any western company that has got government contracts to build anything has given bribes then that black money (illegal money) is parked in real estate and banks of the developed countries. Then they provide loans through development banks like IMF etc to offset the trade imbalances that results because of the money going out of these poor countries. I personally feel one of the reasons western countries don't like China silk road initiative is that China used their own playbook and cut them out of this market of exploitation. For the countries being exploited they exchanged 1 for the other but because of competition the politicians now get better deals make billions and once loose the power move to the west where their money was parked.
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by tus88 on Friday January 31, 2020 @11:13PM (#22208609)
Seems like international trade and bribery go hand in hand.
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by dehrmann on Saturday February 01, 2020 @12:52AM (#22208965)
The EXIM bank can be viewed as a subsidy (and unfair trade advantage) for companies like Boeing. I assume there's an EU version of it that will do everything it can to put you in an Airbus today.
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by raverbashing on Saturday February 01, 2020 @01:53AM (#22209147)
Let's say, international trade in low enforcement/low transparency jurisdictions

Then it's an issue of "complying" with the informal regulations or not selling

Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by reaperducer on Saturday February 01, 2020 @09:43AM (#22210723)
Anyone here actually believes it is only Airbus???

Does it matter? Airbus is being punished for what Airbus did. If other companies also misbehaved, that doesn't suddenly mean that Airbus didn't break the law and shouldn't be punished.

It's the difference between a justice system and mob rule.

Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by davidtranjs on Sunday February 02, 2020 @02:42AM (#22215733)
Of course, everyone is doing it, especially in developing country like mine. But Airbus need to be punished because of their action anyway.
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by clSTophEjUdRanu on Friday January 31, 2020 @11:18PM (#22208622)
Is there evidence of others?
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by pinkfoot on Saturday February 01, 2020 @12:37AM (#22208914)
Well, in the UK no less than PM Blair personally interfered to get to SFO to drop the in investigation into BAE bribery on the Eurofighter Typhoon project in Saudi Arabia.

Something about 5,000 jobs, ₤6 billion, and - of course - upset Saudi princes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Yamamah_arms_deal#Serious_F...

Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by francilien on Saturday February 01, 2020 @03:03AM (#22209352)
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by masklinn on Saturday February 01, 2020 @02:42AM (#22209275)
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by mthoms on Saturday February 01, 2020 @08:08PM (#22214448)
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by perceptronas on Saturday February 01, 2020 @09:21AM (#22210622)
While I'll get a ton of down votes for saying this: any place where government has too much presence and authority over economy is riddled with bribery. It just cannot be other way. What is that saying? Power corrupts.

As for solution - not sure. It seems this is defense case so more transparency might not be an option

Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by perl4ever on Saturday February 01, 2020 @10:35AM (#22211027)
I think it's obvious that the opposite is true.

Any place riddled with bribery is one where government has far too little authority and individuals ostensibly working for it are running rampant.

Authority is not exactly the same thing as power though.

Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by mcv on Saturday February 01, 2020 @11:26AM (#22211331)
Bribery happens when people have power with little accountability. Any kind of power, government or not, should go hand in hand with accountability. It's the only way to prevent corruption.
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by topspin on Saturday February 01, 2020 @12:51AM (#22208960)
Well, I certainly don't. I'm just amused at the level of whataboutism I'm observing in these responses.
Re:Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders by andy_ppp on Saturday February 01, 2020 @03:14AM (#22209395)
What about whataboutism? Seriously though just calling whataboutery is so boring, I found it interesting how often this happens with all defence contractors, as if there’s something deeply immoral at their core...