Re:Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spr...
by izzydata on Friday January 31, 2020 @05:01PM
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Originating from a lab doesn't necessarily mean it is a weapon. Only that they have poor sterilization or something.
Re:Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spr...
by agumonkey on Friday January 31, 2020 @06:56PM
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yeah close proxmity changes everything, mistakes are not impossible. ..
Re:Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spr...
by Fomite on Friday January 31, 2020 @05:35PM
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Points one and two are originating in a lab as a general principle. Only point three is addressing the mutated version of this rumor, which is that it's a bioweapons lab.
Re:Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spr...
by dk1138 on Friday January 31, 2020 @05:15PM
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Trivially easy to trace, sure. But the Chinese government bay be highly motivated to prevent disclosing or allowing discovery of that.
Re:Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spr...
by baddox on Friday January 31, 2020 @05:38PM
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The ones that are too difficult to trace wouldn't, of course, be included among every lab exposure-related outbreak you've encountered.
Re:Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spr...
by Fomite on Friday January 31, 2020 @06:25PM
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There are very, very few outbreaks where we don't eventually figure out the source.
Like, can you spin the theory that we're missing them? Sure. But there's a pretty strong absence of evidence there, despite a field that's actively looking constantly (and where showing that would further the political and scientific careers of a number of people).
Re:Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spr...
by vtail on Friday January 31, 2020 @05:57PM
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Yes - it's a good example of a survivorship bias.
Re:Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spr...
by ranger207 on Friday January 31, 2020 @11:49PM
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>If this was a bioweapon, it sucks.
Bioweapons aren't all that effective in general for the reasons seen here: they're too slowly acting, to easy to treat, and not as lethal as, say, chemical weapons (which are also not that effective as weapons). Biological weapons are most dangerous as terror weapons.
Re:Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spr...
by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Saturday February 01, 2020 @12:29AM
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I am not sure I agree completely. Yes, the panic they induce ( and that media happily augment ) is in itself dangerous, but.. well, weaponized ebola has apparently been in existence for a while. What makes you think progress was not made since then to.. add new traits to existing strains?
I hate to say anything more, because we would easily move into wild speculation territory.
Re:Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spr...
by Fomite on Saturday February 01, 2020 @06:31PM
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Agreed. I worked on biodefense stuff for awhile, and my usual argument was that bioweapons are at best panic and disruption.
But this was mostly to address the terminal version of this particular rumor, which I've also encountered on social media.
- Most high-end virology labs are doing research on human to human transmission of corona viruses. They're a major emerging type of virus we don't understand, and a Chinese lab working on them is even less surprising.
- If this was a bioweapon, it sucks.