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Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by Cynddl on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:08AM (#22139447)
Sadly not available in Europe. Three years after GDPR and these big news outlets still haven't figure how to provide content without invasive privacy breaches.

> Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism.

Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by seanmcdirmid on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:27AM (#22139663)
What would the Chicago Tribune get out of spending the time and money needed to conform to extra-territorial European laws? I’m pretty sure their advertisers aren’t willing to pay for eyeball views from Paris.
Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by bosie on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:37AM (#22139786)
Wouldn't a larger ad agency like google solve this problem for them? How localised are newspaper ads?
Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by koheripbal on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:17AM (#22139533)
Our company website is the same. We just decided it wasn't worth it to cater to EU users, so we geo-blocked the whole continent.
Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by Cenk on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:22AM (#22139598)
Instead of turning off the whole site for EU users, why not just turn off the tracking for them?
Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by toast0 on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:35AM (#22139766)
Turning off a site for EU is pretty easy: setup a geo IP lookup and return a sad page; minimal testing and you're unlikely to break it.

Turning off trackers is harder, you do the same geo IP, but then you have to find all the places you put trackers, and disable them, and test the site without them, and somehow make sure when the next tracker is inserted, it doesn't go to EU. If your code is well managed, it might be easy, but if you're a newspaper, who knows. They may have several different generations of template systems, with older articles staying on what they were published with, or older articles may be static html with embedded trackers.

Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by pb7 on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:38AM (#22139797)
They have no obligation to bend over backwards for a market they’re not interested in.
Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by fit2rule on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:33AM (#22139745)
Obviously, because then US users would be treated 'unfairly' and could end up using the EU as a way to get around that tracking, too ..
Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by presumably on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:27AM (#22139648)
What will your company do for California users, and other states as they adopt similar privacy laws following the success of the GDPR?
Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by parliament32 on Friday January 24, 2020 @01:29PM (#22141059)
Honestly, also do the same until the revenue you and your friends generate outweighs the cost of implementing these things. Currently, it doesn't, and it's up to the beancounters to decide when it's worthwhile.

Personally I don't have a stake either way in the matter. I can see the argument from both sides. But the entire point of a business is to generate revenue, and we can't do that if we start trying to comply with every local chirp and by-law places decide to pass.

Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by seanmcdirmid on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:30AM (#22139694)
They might actually do the same. It depends on what they lose by losing that market...in California’s case, it is far enough away that advertisers for the Chicago Tribune are probably not interested in those views anyways.

Supporting the GDPR isn’t free, those technical and legal costs have to be justified by saving an appropriate amount of lost revenues.

Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by matthewmacleod on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:33AM (#22139739)
"Supporting" the GDPR is basically following best practices for data security in any case, so if you aren't already doing it, then you or your users will likely get a nasty surprise in short order anyway.
Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by seanmcdirmid on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:47AM (#22139923)
That isn’t true though. If you are claiming that you don’t need a lawyer to go over the rules and you don’t need engineers to re-architect the system to be compliant, then you don’t have anything to lose in a lawsuit when you inevitably mess all of that up.

All laws are nuanced, just thinking that you are already doing the right thing isn’t enough to avoid legal liability.

Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by ssully on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:20AM (#22139565)
The gist is a Chicago woman in her 60's traveled to China, and a few days after returning she felt ill. Her doctor worked with the CDC to diagnose that she contracted the disease. She has been hospitalized and is currently stable.

As for the Tribune's availability it sucks, but is not surprising. They are a big paper in the Midwest, but they definitely do not have the resources compared to bigger publications, nor do I think do they have any kind of focus on the international market.

Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by parliament32 on Friday January 24, 2020 @01:25PM (#22141025)
What's the point? It's not like many people in the EU are interested in this paper, becoming compliant is definitely not worth the cost from a business perspective.
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Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by dang on Saturday January 25, 2020 @12:50AM (#22144977)
Please keep nationalistic flamebait off HN. It leads to nationalistic flamewars, which we don't want here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Man diagnosed with coronavirus near Seattle is being trea... by aianus on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @11:52PM (#22177553)
Perhaps irrelevant and offtopic GDPR complaints should be disallowed as well, similar to complaints about paywalls.