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Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by vearwhershuh on Thursday January 23, 2020 @01:29PM (#22130216)
The year is 2035.

Your refrigerator refuses to work because of a comment overheard by your thermostat that was construed by AI as being insufficiently supportive of your countries corporate foreign policy objectives.

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by ASalazarMX on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:17PM (#22130756)
Reminded me of Phillip K. Dick's "Ubik", where the door refuses to open for free:

The door refused to open. It said, "Five cents, please."

He searched his pockets. No more coins; nothing. "I'll pay you tomorrow," he told the door. Again it remained locked tight. "What I pay you," he informed it, "is in the nature of a gratuity; I don't have to pay you."

"I think otherwise," the door said. "Look in the purchase contract you signed when you bought this conapt."

...he found the contract. Sure enough; payment to his door for opening and shutting constituted a mandatory fee. Not a tip.

"You discover I'm right," the door said. It sounded smug.

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by dsr_ on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:06PM (#22131309)
The unbelievable part is that he could find the contract.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by Wistar on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:20PM (#22131481)
... especially while locked out.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by faleidel on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:36PM (#22131686)
If I recall right he was locked inside, not outside.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by ASalazarMX on Thursday January 23, 2020 @05:11PM (#22132812)
That was the most kafkian aspect. How could he earn more money to pay the door if it locked him inside?

In another instance, the door also didn't want to let him in without paying.

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by ASalazarMX on Friday January 24, 2020 @12:42PM (#22140554)
A little late, but here's the rest of the quote. He was locked in.

From the drawer beside the sink Joe Chip got a stainless steel knife; with it he began systematically to unscrew the bolt assembly of his apt’s money-gulping door.

“I’ll sue you,” the door said as the first screw fell out. Joe Chip said, “I’ve never been sued by a door. But I guess I can live through it.”

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by arnarbi on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:34PM (#22131665)
Why? I can pull up most of my documents from past few years on my mobile phone. And that’s not even fiction.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by throwaway2048 on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:21PM (#22131503)
I can almost hear the HN posts about how they actually agreed to the EULA
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by Guest42 on Thursday January 23, 2020 @04:44PM (#22132507)
DaaS
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by voodooranger on Thursday January 23, 2020 @01:46PM (#22130413)
If your fridge were really smart it would infer both your household’s disposable income and technical acumen based on its location and overheard conversations then tailor prices, failures, and replacement policies accordingly.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by lostlogin on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:14PM (#22130726)
Isn’t that already in place in a more benign form? Many appliances come out under multiple brands with different skins, badges and prices. This also applies to bigger purchases like cars.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by TeMPOraL on Thursday January 23, 2020 @01:49PM (#22130442)
Of course it does that. That feature was debuted around 2024, and was present in most mainstream household appliances by 2029.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by makapuf on Thursday January 23, 2020 @01:49PM (#22130440)
If it were real smart it would make you believe you are not technically able to refute its argument about needing maintenance.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by dvtrn on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:02PM (#22130598)
Ah yes, the KantKooler 2000: Can you really be sure the chicken is thawing if you've never eaten chicken a priori?
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by api on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:55PM (#22131901)
There's a real "banality of evil" aspect to this: we are building the infrastructure of a future hellish totalitarian dystopia to get people to click annoying ads and to squeeze tiny amounts of revenue from customers.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by Razengan on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:10PM (#22130685)
Just make us meat batteries and plug us into the Matrix already.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by netsharc on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:07PM (#22131324)
Which is a part of The Matrix story that doesn't make sense...

It would've made more sense to say that they were using the human brains as CPUs, so conciously the humans were living in society, but sub/unconciously they were performing calculations for "the machines".

Which would open up an interesting plot, if the machines' (AI) "consciousness" ran on our brains and they didn't have their own hardware CPUs, would that make the humans the machines? Or would the program be seen like a computer virus?

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by imron on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:40PM (#22131736)
> It would've made more sense to say that they were using the human brains as CPUs

That was apparently the original plot before studio executives decided it would be too difficult for audiences to understand.

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/19817/was-executiv...

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by neaden on Thursday January 23, 2020 @04:23PM (#22132259)
This doesn't really seem to indicate that was ever the plan. There is an offhand mention of a different plan, a Neil Gaiman story that I've read and has to do with aliens and is very different, and a novelization that doesn't actually exist.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by Rebelgecko on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:14PM (#22131423)
Originally, in earlier versions of the script the humans were used as CPUs. IIRC the studio made the Wachowskis change to using humans for power generation.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by dajohnson89 on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:36PM (#22131697)
what do you think motivated that change?
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by reificator on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:41PM (#22131747)
They didn't think audiences were ready to view the brain as a computer.

I disagree, but 20+ years later I don't think it would even be an issue, what with all the `people only use 10% of their brains` nonsense movies that have come out.

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by njarboe on Thursday January 23, 2020 @04:24PM (#22132271)
So they could have a dramatic scene where Laurence Fishburne can explain the situation by holding up a Duracell looking battery.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by outworlder on Thursday January 23, 2020 @09:11PM (#22134753)
> Which is a part of The Matrix story that doesn't make sense...

Yes, it makes zero sense. Just burn the food, if you even need to use food at all.

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by blackearl on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:22PM (#22131520)
Seems stupid to have a matrix with pain and suffering. People would question our existence less if it were all candy and backrubs.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by neaden on Thursday January 23, 2020 @04:25PM (#22132277)
Agent Smith addresses this in the first film. "Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world, where none suffered, where everyone would be happy? It was a disaster. No one would accept the program, entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world, but I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering."
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by BubRoss on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:27PM (#22131583)
What if we define ourselves by suffering? Entire crops will be lost.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by justAnotherNET on Thursday January 23, 2020 @01:38PM (#22130324)
1984 imagined a horrific world where the government forced you to install listening devices in your home.

Meanwhile in 2020 we purchase them ourselves because we don’t want to flip light switches.

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by blaser-waffle on Thursday January 23, 2020 @01:59PM (#22130562)
Brave New World is probably a better dystopian comparison than 1984.

More "oppression-by-comfort" than "boot-on-face-forever".

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by ghostcluster on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:02PM (#22130604)
Every time Orwell's 1984 is mentioned on the Internet it gets this exact followup comment about Brave New World. Not saying it's wrong, but this is just some kind of law of internet discussions.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by pmiller2 on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:43PM (#22131050)
IMO, that's because the world is headed toward a techno-dystopia that lies somewhere between 1984 and Brave New World.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by markdown on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:21PM (#22130802)
ghostcluster's law.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by polynomial on Thursday January 23, 2020 @04:13PM (#22132135)
Postman's Law.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by pixl97 on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:10PM (#22130678)
Oppression by comfort comes first, oppression by boot comes second after you decide the comfort isnt worth it.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by bittercynic on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:46PM (#22131083)
It's much cheaper that way. If most fall in line in exchange for comfort, you don't need to pay for nearly as many boots on faces.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by Razengan on Thursday January 23, 2020 @07:47PM (#22134198)
Until you have robot armies you don’t need to pay, period.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by api on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:56PM (#22131919)
I've heard it put this way: the dystopia we're building is Brave New World unless you truly get in the way, in which case it rapidly becomes 1984.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by planetzero on Thursday January 23, 2020 @01:56PM (#22130517)
That's why the message from Fahrenheit 451 was more apt to 2020: It's not the government that creates a dystopian future, it's us.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by jimmaswell on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:21PM (#22131505)
The government at least ostensibly needs a warrant to access your communications to a smart device. Mandatory government surveillance and opt-in convenience products are not on the same plane.