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Re:Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't by leeshire on Monday January 20, 2020 @03:45AM (#22097402)
any reason why rasberries and strawberries have the words berries in them then?
Re:Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't by thaumasiotes on Monday January 20, 2020 @04:18AM (#22097557)
The word "berry" goes back to proto-Germanic. Outside the context of botany, it means "small fruit". (And even in the 9th century, it meant "small fruit", though at the time it was more strongly associated with grapes than it is now.)

Carl Linnaeus lived in the 18th century. The botanical sense of "berry" developed from the ordinary sense -- almost certainly because someone was investigating "what do all these berries have in common?", and picked a trait that identified the largest number of small fruit.

You can see the same thing happening with "fish". Starfish and jellyfish are not "fish" in a taxonomic sense, but they are things that live in the water. In Chinese, octopuses and crocodiles are also "fish". (章鱼 and 鳄鱼, where 鱼 by itself is "fish".)

Re:Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't by mcv on Monday January 20, 2020 @04:59AM (#22097750)
In Dutch, whales ("walvis") are fish. But jellyfish and starfish aren't. Squids ("inktvis") are.
Re:Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't by gherkinnn on Monday January 20, 2020 @03:51AM (#22097432)
Both are red, small, sweet, and grow in bushes and shrubs. It’s fair to assume they’re related. Before science came along.
Re:Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't by JamesBarney on Monday January 20, 2020 @04:02AM (#22097483)
The world "berry" and "fruit" have both a technical botanist definition, and a culinary definition. Like okra is a fruit from a botany perspective but not a culinary one. If you asked for a fruit smoothie and received an okra smoothie on I imagine you wouldn't be happy.
Re:Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't by blowski on Monday January 20, 2020 @04:23AM (#22097580)
My gosh - Okra smoothie is actually a thing! That must taste... interesting.

https://www.thespruceeats.com/juice-and-smoothie-recipe-with...

Re:Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't by dvh on Monday January 20, 2020 @03:49AM (#22097419)
For the same reason Stonehenge have henge in it's name
Re:Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't by thaumasiotes on Monday January 20, 2020 @04:23AM (#22097581)
For reference, the "henge" in Stonehenge means a gallows, and is thought to be a reference to the shape of the structures.

(What do you do on a gallows? You hang.)

Re:Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't by blowski on Monday January 20, 2020 @05:02AM (#22097763)
Another theory is that it refers to the way the top stone "hinges" on the bottom two. Nobody is certain about the etymology.