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Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by geerlingguy on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @03:26PM (#22048907)
I was surprised/annoyed by this as a very casual gamer—my sister lent me her Xbox One a few weeks ago, and I have a copy of Halo (Master Chief Collection). I wanted to play it for a few minutes just to relive some memories from Halo CE and see how the remastered graphics looked.

It took like 20 minutes for the game to copy from the disc to internal storage (luckily her Xbox had some free space!), and then it spent another 10 or so downloading an update/patch.

Back when I remember playing Sega, Nintendo, etc. (even Xbox 360, which was the last console I owned), it was a matter of plugging in a cartridge/disc, turning on the system, and playing the game after a few boot screens.

In the end, I only got about 20 minutes of time to play the game since it was night and I had to be up early to help the kids. The experience didn't make me anxious to buy a modern gaming system.

Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by Darkphibre on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @03:45PM (#22049067)
Ah, yes, in the days of yore when the code could fit in an 8k memory chip! :D https://benfry.com/distellamap/

Sorry to hear it was not an enjoyable evening.

With the higher resolutions many TVs support, there's only so much bandwidth and memory headroom to support textures that big, and DVD drives just don't have the seek speed to support. Heck, in the 360 generation we were carefully laying out files broken apart and spaced so the platter would be under the read head at just the right time to reduce that latency.

As for the updates... well, I'm intimately familiar with why patching the four concurrent titles is they way it is. I have hear our feedback was incorporated into a new update system. It's been personally frustrating, when Microsoft/Bungie pioneered the Play-While-Install concept all the way back in Halo 2 Vista. We'll see!

The feedback in this post is my own, and is not meant to reflect that of my employer 343 Industries.

Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by giancarlostoro on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @03:29PM (#22048929)
Oh right, console gamer problems. I guess cloud gaming will make them happy, I really hope it doesn't bleed over into PC gaming.
Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by dublinben on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @03:37PM (#22049001)
Isn't it already a meme that Steam seems to always require updates before you can play anything?
Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by hnick on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @06:54PM (#22050476)
Steam seems to patch very quickly so that's never been an issue for me.

Some games patch very poorly due to Steam's update mechanism. Path of Exile is notorious for this, to the point many download the standalone client instead. The issue is that it uses one big file for data and this interacts poorly with steam (a tiny patch will take half an hour to apply after downloading, even on SSD).

Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by mywittyname on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @10:25AM (#22054976)
Steam updates in the background, so it's not really an issue.

However, the install times are still annoying. I really wish more games had play-while-install features. That being said, Steam downloads so much faster than a PS4 installs. I have a gigabit home connection and can get pretty close to saturating it while downloading from Steam, while the PS4 is slow -- apparently due to some technical limitations of the PS4.

Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by falcolas on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @04:02PM (#22049219)
If it is, then the meme is an old one. I haven't had to patch before playing in years. Even new games seem to come patched.
Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by mhh__ on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @10:14PM (#22051485)
You can stop it doing that in the settings if you please.
Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by setr on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @03:41PM (#22049030)
PC gaming is already just playing catch-up on all the console strategies. That battle was lost as soon as Steam became popular (and game renting indefinitely became enforcable, even for offline games, on PC).
Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by NoPicklez on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @05:21PM (#22049834)
I always thought that it was console that was just playing catch up on all the PC strategies. Could you please further elaborate?
Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by SketchySeaBeast on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @05:22PM (#22049844)
I was surprised this generation to see that they still have disc drives in consoles. I imagine next gen they'll finally be gone.
Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by kevin_thibedeau on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @06:55PM (#22050485)
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway."
Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by SketchySeaBeast on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @09:41AM (#22054513)
The bandwidth is great, the ping is awful.
Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by setr on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @03:36PM (#22048997)
The one and only time I touched an Xbox one, my cousin's, we picked up the game from the store and it turned out to contain a blank disk that went and downloaded the game on insertion. Perhaps that's what happened in your case?

Regardless, never again. It's downright offensive.

Re:Video Gaming Will Take Over by Polylactic_acid on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @09:05PM (#22051161)
>it was a matter of plugging in a cartridge/disc, turning on the system, and playing the game after a few boot screens.

It was also a matter of traveling to the store during opening hours, purchasing the game and traveling home. That is almost always less convenient than purchasing it in a UI and having it download.

What does annoy me is how steam and probably other platforms force you to install updates before you can start a game even if the game has no online features.