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Re:Products I Wish Existed by dunkelan on Monday January 06, 2020 @10:56AM (#21970054)
I think the key term is "consumer-centric". Ring and other home cams are necessary peace of mind for a lot of people.
Re:Products I Wish Existed by kec on Monday January 06, 2020 @11:13AM (#21970240)
Consumers can be assholes as well. I was harassed by one of my neighbors and the police because their ring camera caught me walking through the parking lot in front of my building on the same afternoon this neighbors car was broken into.
Re:Products I Wish Existed by runjake on Monday January 06, 2020 @10:57AM (#21970080)
Non-DIY plus subscriptions plus corporations rarely leads to "consumer-centric".

More often it's almost solely profit-driven.

Re:Products I Wish Existed by eladgil on Monday January 06, 2020 @11:48AM (#21970603)
One could argue that for most non-engineers, non-DIY is crucial for most products.

For example, in the 90s a lot of people thought everyone would host their own email servers. In reality, consumers flocked to Y! mail and later Gmail, since most people really can't or won't do this themselves.

Most people also do not change the oil on their own car (at least in the USA) etc.

In my mind the question is can you develop a great product in this area. It is possible (and sad) that Ring or Nest is as good as it gets (or have default won due to superior distribution). But I do think there are a lot of features I would want as a consumer that would make this experience better for me.

Re:Products I Wish Existed by criddell on Monday January 06, 2020 @11:36AM (#21970480)
What's wrong with subscriptions? If you are getting an ongoing service (like Spotify, or HBO, or magazine delivery, etc...) it seems that an ongoing fee makes sense.
Re:Products I Wish Existed by TeMPOraL on Monday January 06, 2020 @12:09PM (#21970814)
Products turning into services, that's what wrong. You stop paying, the devices stop working. Or, they decide they're bored with providing the service, and pivot or get acquihired (or just decide to prod you into upgrading), the devices stop working.

Plus, it seems that the new breed of service companies isn't satisfied with just providing a service in exchange of money. They also use the opportunity to exfiltrate as much data about you as they can get.

Re:Products I Wish Existed by mynegation on Monday January 06, 2020 @12:41PM (#21971133)
That is fine. I am happily paying for Spotify as they provide me with tremendous value day over day. I spend much less on music than in the days of buying CDs and Have access to a huge catalogue, instantly.
Re:Products I Wish Existed by criddell on Monday January 06, 2020 @01:37PM (#21971722)
You don't subscribe to cable tv or netflix?
Re:Products I Wish Existed by TeMPOraL on Monday January 06, 2020 @03:47PM (#21973118)
I do, but a) problems of these businesses are well-known, and b) there's a difference between a subscription to entertainment and subscription to necessities (or at least things with higher impact on one's life).

Also, in case of cable/Netflix, a lot of downsides are mitigated by piracy. There's no worry you'll be cut off from the entertainment you want, because you can always Torrent it if push comes to shove.

Re:Products I Wish Existed by asdff on Monday January 06, 2020 @03:34PM (#21972989)
Eventually it's going to come to a head that these cams do little at all for security. I have a wyze cam that I use to watch my pet, but I'm well aware that even if it caught a burglar in the act that the LAPD isn't going to do anything with that video or the case.
Re:Products I Wish Existed by Falling3 on Monday January 06, 2020 @04:05PM (#21973300)
I agree with you, but I think that particular example says more about our police than it does about the cameras.