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Re:A7: Apple's custom 64-bit silicon embarrassed the industry by wmf on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @01:59PM (#21705676)
How is Qualcomm not terminally embarrassed to announce brand new chips that are two years behind what Apple is currently shipping?

If we assume Qualcomm is trying as hard as they can, what's their alternative? Ship nothing? Commit corporate suicide in shame?

Re:A7: Apple's custom 64-bit silicon embarrassed the industry by jandrese on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @02:04PM (#21705746)
Engineer better and faster chips? It's not like Apple has some insurmountable process node advantage here or an ISA advantage. Everything is still some flavor of ARM.

I guess I'm saying that it doesn't seem like Qualcomm is putting in as much effort as they should. It should be embarrassing for them.

Re:A7: Apple's custom 64-bit silicon embarrassed the industry by simonh on Thursday December 05, 2019 @05:07AM (#21711188)
There's no incentive for Qualcomm to catch up. The flagship handset manufacturers have nowhere else to go and really only competing with each other.

Faster chips also mean more expensive chips, which would erode their price competitiveness against the iPhone especially since they don't have the volumes of the iPhone. In particular A series chips have huge and higher spec caches compared to the Qualcomm chips, which take a lot of die space, which is the prime factor in chip costs.

Finally, for Qualcomm to bring out a super-premium A series killer they would have to know, for a fact, that all the Android manufacturers would adopt it. If they didn't the per-unit costs would make them prohibitively expensive. They just don't have the guaranteed volumes. If enough manufacturers passed, the project would be a financial disaster. It's just too risky.

Re:A7: Apple's custom 64-bit silicon embarrassed the industry by wmf on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @02:10PM (#21705798)
Check out Samsung who had 290 people designing custom ARM cores... that were no better than stock ARM cores. I suspect there's some cultural or organizational reason why Qualcomm or Samsung could spend infinite money and still end up worse.
Re:A7: Apple's custom 64-bit silicon embarrassed the industry by scarface74 on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @10:39PM (#21709776)
Why should they? The high end Android market is minuscule. It’s all a race to the bottom.