Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by jl2718 on Sunday December 01, 2019 @03:10PM
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Nice of them to provide so many examples at the bottom of their own page.
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Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by axegon_ on Sunday December 01, 2019 @03:16PM
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Exactly what I was thinking:
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by mantap on Sunday December 01, 2019 @03:50PM
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BBC is not allowed to show ads in UK. It's likely that the journalist who wrote the article is totally unaware that the page has this kind of spam in other countries. Hilarious though.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by ceejayoz on Sunday December 01, 2019 @03:31PM
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It's baffling to me how many major news outlets have willingly compromised their integrity in this way, to the point of permitting Outbrain/Taboola to use look-alike fonts and formatting.
In an era where legitimate reporting gets called "fake news", why make that easier to do?
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by lllr_finger on Sunday December 01, 2019 @04:28PM
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Because Outbrain and Taboola can easily be 1/10th or more of a legit site's revenue, on the order of millions of dollars. I'm not saying that's a good thing, it's a very difficult argument with the amount of money you could potentially miss out on.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by anigbrowl on Sunday December 01, 2019 @06:01PM
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It's not a legitimate site any more once it starts making money that way. You might as well sell cigarettes in a health food store. Outbrain and Taboola are cancer and the world would be better off if their offices were flattened by a meteor impact.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by brycesbeard on Sunday December 01, 2019 @06:08PM
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I assert it doesn’t affect the legitimacy of the site at all. Also, I don’t think selling cigarettes undermines a pharmacy.
I may place less importance on “brand coherency” and more on “value to myself” than others.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by ceejayoz on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:52PM
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Sure, in the short term.
The damage to their reputations may cost substantially more in the long run. Doesn't take many "I clicked a NYT article and it was a scam" experiences to permanently sour someone on the outlet.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by TeMPOraL on Sunday December 01, 2019 @07:41PM
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How many people do care about reputation of a news source beyond "it's mainstream" vs. "it's a tabloid" vs. "it's something random I've never seen before"? I think most people these days don't follow news sites, they click through to individual articles from their IMs and social media feeds.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by ceejayoz on Sunday December 01, 2019 @07:59PM
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I cancelled a NYT subscription over their continued employment of folks like Bret Stephens (https://www.vox.com/2019/8/27/20834957/bret-stephens-bedbug-...) and Bari Weiss (https://theintercept.com/2017/08/31/nyts-newest-op-ed-hire-b...). It wouldn't be shocking for someone to do so over Taboola.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by joegahona on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:13PM
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It's similar with affiliate links. Make tons of money but compromise your integrity and point your users to the exit door.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by have_faith on Sunday December 01, 2019 @03:36PM
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This is a BBC worldwide thing, we don't get any of this on the UK site. Bit of a strange stance.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by codev on Sunday December 01, 2019 @04:15PM
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Such a strange stance. To point out the hypocrisy visible to 99.2% of the world's population.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by codetrotter on Sunday December 01, 2019 @06:13PM
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I think parent commenter was talking about it being a strange stance on the part of BBC, not on the part of the person pointing out the hypocrisy.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by r00fus on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:21PM
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If it’s not visible to the original author and his/her primary audience then is it actually hypocrisy?
Or an unfortunate case in point (irony)?
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by have_faith on Monday December 02, 2019 @05:04AM
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Not sure what you mean, I was saying it's a strange stance for the BBC.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by krick on Sunday December 01, 2019 @03:33PM
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I rarely see all this stuff, since I'm using adblocker, but this is legitimately funny.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by ErikAugust on Sunday December 01, 2019 @07:47PM
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Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by buboard on Sunday December 01, 2019 @03:30PM
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at least they make money off those ads. kind of a revenge
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by rozab on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:35PM
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I had no idea the BBC showed ads outside the UK. It's really upsetting how far it has fallen in recent years.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by frereubu on Sunday December 01, 2019 @06:10PM
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While I agree that standards have fallen at the BBC in recent years, this is not an example of that. BBC sites have shown ads outside the UK for more than ten years on the basis that UK licence fee payers shouldn't have to subsidise their sites for visitors outside the UK. The ad income pays for that. Same with BBC Worldwide, the BBC's commercial arm, that sells BBC content to other broadcasters outside the UK.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by cameronbrown on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:17PM
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Yeah. Those pictures made this an uncomfortable read. Taboola and Outbrain straight to /dev/null thank you very much.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by enjoyyourlife on Sunday December 01, 2019 @03:34PM
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None of them are fake news sites. For example if your go to techdiscountdeals . com, you will get an advertisement for a product.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by ceejayoz on Sunday December 01, 2019 @03:35PM
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They're shown on news sites, intentionally worded and configured to look like "related content" sort of headlines.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by jacquesm on Sunday December 01, 2019 @04:53PM
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The same happens in print media, 'Het Financeele Dagblad', the Dutch analogy to the Financial Times had a whole pile of IBM advertising copy in it that was the spitting image of their editorial content.
Re:Sham news sites make big bucks from fake views
by enjoyyourlife on Sunday December 01, 2019 @03:37PM
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The article is about news sites which copy articles. The sites that those ads link to are entirely ads with no real news.