Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI Go players

Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by jv22222 on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @07:17PM (#21653556)

I’m now curios, can a human design a game that a computer can not beat a human at.

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by asib on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @07:41PM (#21653705)

This reduces down to the question of whether it's possible to simulate a brain (or an equivalent formulation, such as is consciousness somehow extraphysical). I believe I'm right in saying current consensus says that this is possible.

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by londons_explore on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @09:03PM (#21654064)

Theoretically possible, but so far nobody has done it, or knows how to...

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by salomaki on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @07:41PM (#21653704)

The Turing Test game? (For now at least)

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by baroffoos on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @09:05PM (#21654070)

Just put a scoreboard on captcha.

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by breatheoften on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @10:36PM (#21654414)

I think alpha zero can self-train to mastery or super-human performance at any two player game with perfect information?

I’d be curious to know if that’s incorrect ...

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by klyrs on Thursday November 28, 2019 @11:53AM (#21658687)

I'd love to see a blinded Dixit competition between humans and AI, judged by humans. Of course, humans and AI could get an advantage by playing lots of Dixit. But if the cards are generated specifically for that competition, things could get quite interesting.

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by nelgaard on Friday November 29, 2019 @09:00PM (#21668032)

Maybe something like Nomic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by andrepd on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @07:54PM (#21653761)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arimaa

Also, relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1002/

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by arunix on Thursday November 28, 2019 @06:03AM (#21656244)

This hasn't been true since 2015, when the software became decisively stronger than human players.

https://www.kingpinchess.net/2015/07/arimaa-game-over/

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by osyed1 on Saturday November 30, 2019 @03:39AM (#21669147)

Actually humans are now able to defeat the bot that won the Arimaa challenge. In games like this: http://arimaa.com/arimaa/games/jsShowGame.cgi?gid=628806&s=w

However, there is also a new bot that has been trained using the self play method and has been crushing the bot that won the Arimaa challenge. In games like this: http://arimaa.com/arimaa/games/jsShowGame.cgi?gid=628534&s=b

Most likely the bots are still ahead.

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by jknoepfler on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @08:53PM (#21654028)

calvinball?

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by Avamander on Friday November 29, 2019 @10:11PM (#21668281)

Tic-Tac-Toe

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