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Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by tempsy on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @10:59AM (#21639388)
Hardly ridiculous. Marijuana is still illegal at the federal level but might as well be considered legal at this point.

No one is going to go to jail because you purchased a small amount of drugs. If you are the seller it's a different story.

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by astura on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @01:15PM (#21640992)
I'm sorry but "why does something being illegal prevent you from doing it?" is a ridiculous question.

Even if you start with the premise nobody is going to jail (which is blatantly untrue - I personally know people with possession charges), getting caught with small amounts of drugs can ruin the careers of some people, including my own career. Think people who must hold a professional licence, people who are subject to background checks (including coders who work at medium to large companies), people who work with children, people who work in certain safety critical industries, people who hold security clearances, etc. There was an FBI agent who was fired recently for testing positive for thc from using CBD oil, the federal government's position is there's no legitimate reason to test positive for thc.

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by tempsy on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @01:24PM (#21641101)
You're referring to your own risk tolerance that is unfounded in most modern workplaces. If you work in tech absolutely no employer does drug tests for employment. People talk about microdosing LSD openly.

Michael Pollen wrote a best selling book about his experience with psychedelics earlier this year. Tim Ferris funded a research institute at John Hopkins and talks about it on his podcast all the time.

Unless you work for the federal gov't you're catastrophizing the risk.

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by jabits on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @05:16PM (#21643312)
I don't know where you get this, maybe start-up land. I have been a dev since the early '90's and all kinds of enterprises do drug testing. Most utilities, health-related organizations, defense contractors, transportation businesses and even many large manufacturers routinely drug test potential employees. Most only test for pre-employment screening, but random testing is still used in many places.

Most recently, three years ago, I was tested for a contracting gig at a Wisconsin power company for a web dev job.

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by astura on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @06:21PM (#21643754)
Sometimes I think startup land is a different planet, around here pretty much every company who would hire a software developer drug tests AND background checks unless maybe it's a really, really small company. Some even do the hair drug test instead of the piss test.

I've ALWAYS been drug tested before starting a software job. I've been drug tested working for the most benign of industries. I actually had a friend who quit weed so she could get a better paying job.

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by Analog24 on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @09:57PM (#21644887)
That sounds like a different planet to me. I don't know of any big tech company, let alone startups, that drug test. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case for dev jobs in older industries but it doesn't seem to be the norm any more.
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by tempsy on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @05:35PM (#21643466)
modern tech cos do not drug test
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by metalchianti on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @02:11PM (#21641556)
There is still some risk. I think you're forgetting that (1) illegal drugs are hard to obtainn--no walking into CVS--and (2) illegal drugs are not reliably sourced--I trust mass manufactured marijuana far more than I do from the sketchy guy on the corner.
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by LostJourneyman on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @03:20PM (#21642262)
That's not necessarily true, especially in consulting firms. I am drug tested somewhat regularly.
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by tempsy on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @04:20PM (#21642830)
"If you work in tech"
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by astura on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @06:31PM (#21643818)
You think there are no tech jobs in consulting firms?
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by galangalalgol on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @09:47PM (#21644853)
What is tech? If you mean sv startups perhaps. But pretty much any embedded sw shop will at least test at hire on.
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by tempsy on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @02:04AM (#21645899)
google, amazon, fb, netflix, apple...these are not "startups"
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by fiblye on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @05:18PM (#21643333)
> No one is going to go to jail because you purchased a small amount of drugs.

What world are you living in? Drug possession is one of the most common reasons for being arrested.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/enforce.cfm

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by lazyasciiart on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:45PM (#21640639)
> An estimated 137,000 people are in prison today on a basic drug-possession charge. Approximately 65% of them sit in local jails, and most of them have yet to actually be accused of a crime. These unfortunate individuals may have to wait months to get their day in court because of their inability to post bail. https://www.marijuanabreak.com/going-to-prison-for-marijuana...
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by tempsy on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:56PM (#21640743)
It isn't risk-free, but the risk is low.

Michael Pollen literally wrote a best selling book about taking LSD, eating shrooms, etc. earlier this year.

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by lazyasciiart on Thursday November 28, 2019 @01:23AM (#21655038)
The risk has a pretty high relationship with the color of your skin.
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by givinguflac on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @11:58AM (#21640096)
I’ve been to jail for a small amount of MJ. The chain of custody and the purity/contamination of a plant is much easier to track, then something like a powder a pill or liquid. There is literally no circumstance where I would trust something that wasn’t a plant on the black market
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by throwaway837373 on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @04:04PM (#21642676)
Ehrlich's reagent will tell you if you have something in at least the same chemical family as LSD, which rules out almost all of the dangerous substances that are sometimes sold as "LSD."
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by tempsy on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:56PM (#21640755)
Everyone has a different risk tolerance. People use LSD, ketamine, and shrooms all the time.
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by dfalfndfk on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:43PM (#21640604)
If you are a person of colour in America you're definitely at risk.
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by wallace_f on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @11:45AM (#21639947)
That's obnoxiously ignorant. Even in high school one of my friends had their house raided and electronics, other valuables consfiscated. A dealer scapegoated him, and he had been searched and found with a pipe with resin in it. He carried the pipe to be cool. He had smoked weed less than 5 times at that point. I have other friends with criminal records for minute quantitites of personal use marijuana.