ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist

Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by pojntfx on Monday November 25, 2019 @05:29AM (#21626873)

Seize the means of registration. Seriously, why on earth are the domain registries of the world not in the hands of the people? This stuff is far to important to be under the control of cooperations.

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by input_sh on Monday November 25, 2019 @05:52AM (#21626973)

You may want to look into OpenNIC, in which anyone with the know-how can operate a TLD.

They have domains like .geek, .cyb, .null, .libre, .oss, and you use them by simply switching your DNS server to one of OpenNIC's mirrors. They also support TLDs for "emerging nations" like .ku for Kurdish people, .uu for Uigurs, .ti for Tibet.

Though I'm not sure what would happen if ICANN decides to sell one of those domains one day.

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by plange on Monday November 25, 2019 @07:13AM (#21627400)

Already happened. OpenNIC had to move the users from .free over to .libre

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by jandrese on Monday November 25, 2019 @04:46PM (#21633162)

> .uu for Uigurs, .ti for Tibet.

Well, I guess mainland Chinese people won't be using this.

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by DarthGhandi on Monday November 25, 2019 @05:38PM (#21633558)

Most of them live in a very different digital world anyway.

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by pjc50 on Monday November 25, 2019 @06:27AM (#21627140)

Which people? There's no "world government" representing us, and having it annexed by the US isn't a great substitute.

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by strbean on Monday November 25, 2019 @03:20PM (#21632346)

The UN? It has its problems (the Security Council), but it's the closest thing we have.

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by Synaesthesia on Monday November 25, 2019 @10:14AM (#21628762)

You could have a council which is voted for and whose positions are immediately revocable by popular demand.

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by peterwwillis on Monday November 25, 2019 @10:34AM (#21628960)

This doesn't really work. There are other stakeholders than just "the public", so need to add more to it, and because of this inherent complexity it ends up sucking. (see Athenian Democracy)

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by syshum on Monday November 25, 2019 @09:36AM (#21628426)

Having the US Dept of Commerce over it is the least bad option right now though

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by rasengan on Monday November 25, 2019 @07:11AM (#21627387)

That’s exactly what Handshake [1] is doing - giving the rootzone to the people.

[1] https://www.handshake.org

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by dpau on Monday November 25, 2019 @12:18PM (#21630319)

As someone noted in a previous discussion, if governments get involved things will get messy, as just one example imagine China objecting to issuing/renewing a domain for a Taiwanese or Hong Kong NGO..

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by rebuilder on Monday November 25, 2019 @08:01AM (#21627734)

Did you have a model of governance in mind? I'm at a loss to think of one that I would prefer to the current one, as bad as it is.

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by willis936 on Monday November 25, 2019 @08:38AM (#21627970)

Keep it as is but have it owned by the fed.

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by Ajedi32 on Monday November 25, 2019 @09:19AM (#21628294)

Which fed? ICANN is an international organization. They used to be overseen by the US Department of Commerce, but that relationship ended (with some controversy) a few years ago.

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Re:ICANN races towards regulatory capture: the great .org heist by willis936 on Monday November 25, 2019 @09:58AM (#21628610)

Any fed of sufficient size and diplomacy. US, EU, whatever. Anyone who has an iota of accountability, internal or external, would be better than the current owner.

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