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Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by gameswithgo on Thursday November 21, 2019 @12:30PM (#21596760)
> Google is trying something really innovative

This kind of thing has been around for nearly 10 years.

Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by ddtaylor on Thursday November 21, 2019 @12:36PM (#21596854)
Yup. OnLive tried it with similar results. There are many markets where 10ms - 20ms latency doesn't matter that much, but realtime gaming isn't one of them. It's extremely disorienting to play a game with even the slightest framebuffer lag.
Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by abhink on Thursday November 21, 2019 @04:17PM (#21599720)
After playing it for about 5-8 hours in the last 2 days, I'd say for a casual gamer like me, there is no perceptible latency. Even in an FPS like Destiny. But again, yesterday was the first time I played a AAA game after two years so maybe I'm just a bit rusty.
Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by jannes on Friday November 22, 2019 @04:22AM (#21604104)
You don't know what you're missing until you have tried lower latency.

My regular gaming setup is a 144 Hz monitor with a PC. Everytime I try gaming on a console with a 60 Hz TV I feel like I'm completely drunk because of the noticeable input lag. And that's not even cloud gaming. That's just the Console + TV input lag...

Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by minikites on Thursday November 21, 2019 @12:47PM (#21597012)
I think Stadia could be super cool for simulation games like Cities: Skylines. The lag isn't nearly as much of a problem and the ability to have an extremely powerful computer simulate many more "agents" would be fantastic.
Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by hyperpallium on Thursday November 21, 2019 @01:03PM (#21597213)
Surprisingly, OnLive found lag was an even greater problem for applications with a cursor than for games.

Plus your suggestion can be implemented with cloud compute (a backend behind the UI) - it doesn't need to be cloud streaming.

Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday November 21, 2019 @01:26PM (#21597524)
No problem. Just reinvent X11 and let the display server render the cursor.
Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by Dylan16807 on Thursday November 21, 2019 @01:42PM (#21597739)
Your phrasing is dismissive but yes having a game not render its own cursor is pretty common and works quite well.
Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by bdefore on Thursday November 21, 2019 @11:29PM (#21602432)
I think the experience will vary quite significantly, the surface is quite large. For Stadia launch, I created a crowdsourcing reports site and am hoping that we can get a better understanding through others' experiences.

https://www.cloudgamingdb.com/

Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by krzyk on Thursday November 21, 2019 @04:01PM (#21599568)
Really? I played Witcher 3 with ping (to Paperspace machine) of about 40ms, the latency wasn't noticeable at all.
Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by macspoofing on Thursday November 21, 2019 @12:35PM (#21596836)
Where? Who else is doing this type of cloud gaming?
Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by headmelted on Thursday November 21, 2019 @12:44PM (#21596980)
Onlive (deceased).

Microsoft (xCloud). Free until it’s stable.

Nvidia (GeForce NOW). Free until it’s stable.

Sony (PlayStation Now).

.. Seriously dude where’ve you been?

Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by krzyk on Thursday November 21, 2019 @04:03PM (#21599590)
And you can add others like Shadow, or you could roll your own using Parsec or Moonlight + a cloud provider like Paperspace or AWS (or even Google cloud).

What is important in case of Shadow, GeForce Now and roll you own, that you buy a PC game that you can access on any PC, not just using a single service (like Stadia, or xCloud).

Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by minikites on Thursday November 21, 2019 @12:37PM (#21596866)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnLive

>The OnLive Game Service was launched in the United States on June 17, 2010. The service was launched in the United Kingdom on September 22, 2011.

Re:When will Google shut down Stadia? by ARCarr on Thursday November 21, 2019 @12:41PM (#21596933)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Now

"PlayStation Now (PS Now) is a cloud gaming subscription service developed by Sony Interactive Entertainment."