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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by k1m on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:19AM (#21572987)
"Melzer was accompanied during his prison visit on 9 May by two medical experts specialised in examining potential victims of torture and other ill-treatment."

Are you saying we should take your word over theirs?

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by olalonde on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:37AM (#21573181)
On 9 May, Assange had only been in jail for about a month. The expert claims the abuse predates that ("for a period of several years") which implies it started in the Ecuadorian embassy where he had been staying of his own accord.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by qubex on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:55AM (#21573387)
He couldn’t really leave the Ecuadorian Embassy given that he was afraid of being arrested and eventually being extradited back to the U.S.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by zepto on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:39AM (#21573199)
He’s not saying that Assange didn’t have symptoms similar to a torture victim - just that he was there voluntarily, and so it isn’t actually torture.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by sambe on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:32AM (#21573110)
He could leave the embassy at any time, which is where the purported damage was done. He is now in prison, where he cannot leave it any time. Melzer visited him recently in prison, thus your quote. It seems pretty clear. The parent may be lacking in nuance for his situation, but it is correct.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by black_puppydog on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:47AM (#21573286)
They were waiting in front of the embassy 24/7. We can now see that he was exactly right in his prediction of what would happen if he left, and how. He's been held in solitary confinement, itself already widely regarded as torture.

Saying "he could have left" in this situation, after being shown exactly how that would have/did go down, is like camping out in front of your ex-girlfriend's house with a baseball bat, then telling the officer you didn't beat her and thus did nothing wrong. Except the whole world can see you totally did beat her when she finally left the house.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by chungus_khan on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:00AM (#21573452)
In addition, he didn't even know if it would be a real arrest and just solitary confinement considering the CIA's reputation.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by sambe on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @04:10AM (#21582308)
I didn't say otherwise. The grandparent stated that he had a choice to leave, the parent implied that he did not because he was in prison. That is not true - the grandparent was correct.

As I said, framing it as that simple of a choice may lack some nuance in describing the pressure he was under. But it is factually true that he was not forced to stay in the conditions which are being criticised. Some would also say that the nature of the conditions was somewhat of his own doing, since the relationship with the embassy is well documented to have deteriorated greatly over time. I can't vouch either way, and it seems people are downvoting normal conversation so I doubt it will be productive to continue.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by k1m on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:37AM (#21573182)
Melzer was asked about that. He responded: "Mr. Assange was about as free to leave as someone sitting on a rubber boat in a shark pool." - https://twitter.com/NilsMelzer/status/1134400849097220102
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by solipsism on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:12AM (#21574508)
You're plastering this thread with the same talking points. People are responding to you. Were you going to address any of the responses, or just keep plastering?
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by zepto on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:41AM (#21573226)
Generally people accused of serious crimes are not as free as the rest of us.

He has always been free to face his accusers.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by black_puppydog on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:48AM (#21573307)
BS. They're accusing him under a law that would not allow him to present any motive for what he did. Not a fair trial by most countries' standards.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by jimbokun on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:15AM (#21573643)
What is an acceptable motive for rape?
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by mattigames on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:54AM (#21574224)
The charges he will be facing on the US are for spionage (under patriot act) not rape.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by colejohnson66 on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:31AM (#21573874)
Please don’t do that here. We’re not talking about rape. We’re talking about the espionage accusations.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by foldr on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:57AM (#21574263)
Not really. It was the arrest warrant for the rape charges in Sweden that kept him confined in the Ecuadorian embassy.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by mariorossi666 on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:56AM (#21574243)
I thought the news was about Sweden dropping the case of rape.
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by mariorossi666 on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:01AM (#21574341)
I've done my reading, nowhere it was mentioned that it wasn't about the allegations of rape.

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