Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field of expertise?

Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by joeframbach on Sunday November 17, 2019 @05:37PM (#21560482)

Looking at a 10 year window. There's a low probability, but non-zero, that I'll be able to correctly align and distribute DOM elements both horizontally and vertically. I might accomplish this by dropping support for the Internet Explorer family of browsers.

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by at-fates-hands on Sunday November 17, 2019 @06:00PM (#21560609)

> I might accomplish this by dropping support for the Internet Explorer family of browsers.

I was just working on some legacy stuff last week. Only worked in IE11, in compatibility mode. I had to use vanilla JS to get some data out of a huge form.

Yeah, document.querySelector('#app') doesn't work. I found out, "It only works on modern browsers" which IE11 doesn't qualify as, which is kind of funny to me. I ended up using document.getElementById('app') instead though, which did work.

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by stringyham on Monday November 18, 2019 @06:48AM (#21563535)

Is there some joke I'm not getting? querySelector has worked on IE since version 8.

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by at-fates-hands on Monday November 18, 2019 @11:09AM (#21565387)

Except when you're running in compatibility mode.

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by stringyham on Monday November 18, 2019 @11:17AM (#21565444)

Compatibility mode would be like coding for IE7. Not IE11's fault :D

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by at-fates-hands on Monday November 18, 2019 @02:37PM (#21567407)

Yeaper.

"Legacy software man, it's a helluva drug!"

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by non-entity on Sunday November 17, 2019 @11:19PM (#21561852)

You could probably find a polyfill to implement querySelector for IE. I've done that for a number of features I didn't want to re implement from scratch

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by jauco on Monday November 18, 2019 @05:18AM (#21563155)

What about Document.getElementById(“app”)?

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by 013 on Monday November 18, 2019 @09:11AM (#21564407)

>SyntaxError: illegal character

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by jauco on Monday November 18, 2019 @05:37PM (#21568902)

Yeah. Thats ios smart quotes for you. Re-type the “ by hand.

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by fragmede on Sunday November 17, 2019 @05:51PM (#21560562)

Still, our tools will need us to pick one screen size and only be able to handle either smartphone, tablet, or desktop resolution with such grace. Magically handling all 3 will take a bit longer.

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by buboard on Monday November 18, 2019 @05:25AM (#21563182)

Try tables

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by scotty79 on Monday November 18, 2019 @10:59AM (#21565315)

You laugh but I recently had some floats but they didn't do exactly what I so I tried to make a flexbox sized to content, and it occured to me that I just want good old table to align my items.

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Re:Ask HN: What will become possible by 2025 in your field o... by buboard on Monday November 18, 2019 @04:32PM (#21568336)

i m dead serious. i use tables even with bootstrap, i like the way they gracefully realign between horizontal and vertical modes in mobile. (e.g. here https://coinzaa.com/)

Tables are great. I believe that all these grid systems will end up reinventing tables 100% anew.

I propose that they add new elements to HTML instead, <grid> <gr> <gd> etc. They will work 100% exactly like tables, but semantic people won't feel guilty using them.

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