16-inch MacBook Pro

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by pentae on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:17PM (#21528265)

Having 4 USB-C's is a bit like having 4 Ferraris. Sometimes you need something a bit more practical. People will still be using USB-A for the next 10 years. Having to use a dongle for USB-A on a 16" macbook is pretty ridiculous. There's still a billion USB-A accessories out there and will be for a long time. Apple jumped the gun in a major way. This wasn't like dropping the floppy disc or CD-rom drive considering how small the USB-A port is.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by pkulak on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:35PM (#21528486)

> People will still be using USB-A for the next 10 years.

Possibly. But they'll be using it for the next 100 if no one ever removes it from anything.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by jedberg on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:32PM (#21529198)

The floppy drive died because a better option came out. If USB-C is truly better, than all new accessories would use it.

There needs to be a transition period where everyone has USB-C and USB-A so that the peripherals can naturally move to the better technology.

Right now I've never seed a good USB-C to USB-A converter. I work at a lot of conferences, and any time a speaker comes with a new MacBook and a USB adaptor, it's a disaster. They all suck.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by AdamN on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:47PM (#21529368)

They removed USB-A about a year before they should have, but now the industry has moved on. We can talk about it as a mistake in the past, but it would be wack to put USB-A back onto these devices.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by Lammy on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @04:39PM (#21529902)

How can we say "the industry has moved on" when the second piece of media on the linked announcement page has someone doing music production with a visible USB-C -> USB-A dongle connecting some rack-eared music gear. There's even a second dongle on their left that I don't recognize. I long for the C-only future, but we're not there yet. Apple's decision to go C-only always seemed to be an aesthetic one to me.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by mpweiher on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @04:49PM (#21529987)

That was true last year.

This year, it's been smooth sailing at every conference so far.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by jedberg on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @05:07PM (#21530156)

I literally dealt with a broken hub last week. I have no idea what you’re talking about.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by mpweiher on Thursday November 14, 2019 @03:24AM (#21533759)

That's been my experience: at every conference I've talked at this year (three so far: ESUG, Macoun and SPLASH, heise MacDev still coming up in December), I plug in my USB-C equipped MacBook Pro and It Just Works™.

Only one of those was an Apple-specific conference.

Sorry your experience is still different. Mine was, too, a year ago.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by catalogia on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:06PM (#21528874)

If people actually started using electronics for 100 years instead of throwing them out every few years, that would be fantastic. It would also be a very radical departure from the status quo and I don't think it a likely scenario, so rest easy I guess..

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by chongli on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @04:10PM (#21529598)

While it may be fun to try to design something that lasts s hundred years and that people will want to use in a hundred years, who would want to sell it?

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by tim333 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @04:57PM (#21530060)

I'm not sure I see the problem - if it works and people are happy why not?

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by acomjean on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @04:22PM (#21529738)

I agree.

As the guy who gave up my laptop( MacBook pro 2015) in a meeting to project because the 2 other MacBooks in the meeting only had usb c and the presentation was on a usb a stick.

At least they got the projector using usb c with a dongle now..

Nothing like having choices. Why my new personal machine was a linux based laptop.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by ProZsolt on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:02PM (#21528811)

There are still devices currently that use floppy disks. The only accessory I have that uses hardwired USB-A is my Logitech C920 webcam. All other stuff has a detachable cable. I will just change the USB-A to (Micro)USB-B cable to USB-C to (Micro)USB-B

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by skavi on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:18PM (#21529010)

The USB A port is very large compared to USB C. Especially in terms of volume.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by ehsankia on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @05:15PM (#21530239)

On a Macbook Air, maybe, but they can definitely fit one on a 16" device.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by skavi on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:53PM (#21532367)

While sacrificing something else. Battery, speakers, thermal management, or aesthetics would have to traded off for USB A to be included. Not worth it for an outdated port whose function can be duplicated by an inexpensive adapter.

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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by ehsankia on Thursday November 14, 2019 @10:35PM (#21542000)

Again, on a small device, yes every mm matters. On a 16" devices, the slightly bigger connector isn't going to make a difference.

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