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Re:Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Re... by arethuza on Monday November 11, 2019 @04:48AM (#21503381)
There are plenty of shoddy new build expensive properties in the UK - I've been amazed when looking at some new properties how poor the fit and finish is but they still sell.
Re:Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Re... by gherkinnn on Monday November 11, 2019 @05:30AM (#21503611)
UK housing standards, especially the plumbing, is a joke.

Tiles misaligned, not sealed off, some bathrooms have no tiles but a bulge-ridden plastic ground cover. All the cupboards are loose. Doors don’t close. I have to manually fuck around with the boiler to get water for my shower. And it still has low pressure. It’s atrocious.

No idea where that comes from. I have a feeling that there’s a disregard for craftsmen. Plumbers, joiners, painters, are all looked down upon. There’s no pride in doing a good job in these areas.

Re:Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Re... by boomskats on Monday November 11, 2019 @04:56AM (#21503424)
Yes but so many of them are built and sell as investments that are banking on an ever-inflating property market. I guess it's also what happened in most of the US to drive the quality down.

I wouldn't bundle the UK in with the rest of Western Europe. We're much more interested in the American model.

Re:Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Re... by TheSpiceIsLife on Monday November 11, 2019 @04:59AM (#21503446)
If you want to see shoddy new buildings, go to Sydney.

Third Sydney apartment block abandoned

https://thebrag.com/third-sydney-apartment-block-abandoned/

Re:Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Re... by CalRobert on Monday November 11, 2019 @05:07AM (#21503478)
Yeah, ROI (so not UK but similar in many respects) and I feel like the construction here is utter crap. Hell, houses are now being sold with 10 year structural warranties (rather short, that) because of a history of houses falling down because of pyrite. Nevermind that we always feel 20-30 years behind everyone else; god help you if you want a timber frame, or for that matter have a heritage building where the builders just slop cement on top of the walls (thus starting the destruction of the lime mortar).

The OP's comments remind me of how much nicer everything seems on the continent, groceries included (though increasingly everyone shops at Aldi/Lidl anyway)

Re:Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Re... by patrickk on Monday November 11, 2019 @05:39AM (#21503661)
Aldi and Lidl's quality is overall better in Ireland because they use local suppliers for certain items. The dairy and meat in Germany is quite low quality for example, although the beer is way better and cheaper in Germany.
Re:Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Re... by tonyedgecombe on Monday November 11, 2019 @06:10AM (#21503811)
When I worked in Germany people didn't seem to buy much meat or baked goods in Aldi/Lidl, there was always a local butcher or baker. In the UK nearly all the independent bakers and butchers disappeared years ago.
Re:Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Re... by mattlondon on Monday November 11, 2019 @07:01PM (#21510222)
Yep particularly in London. Absolutely every new build is advertised as "luxury apartments", but it is all thrown up as quickly as possible to sell either to desperate people trying to get away from renting, or sold off-plan to investors who leave them empty as the price goes up, or to buy to let landlords. A lot of work is done by unskilled labour picked-up in the back of transit vans from street corners on a day by day basis, paid cash in hand.

Landlords especially don't care about quality so long as the yield is good. Who gives a shit if you can hear the neighbors behaving sex or taking a piss if you are not living there, but someone else is paying you £1500-3000 a month for the pleasure? A fancy "luxury" apartment with a flash looking kitchen worktop and fashionable bathroom allows charging a premium.

Any damage or breakage of the low quality construction comes out of the tenants' deposit at the end of the tenancy, and repairs are tax deductible too.