Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by markessien on Thursday January 27, 2011 @05:46PM
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These guys are very impressive, and that they are so innovative around video is really nice.
The Justin.tv guys really took off after they closed down Kiko. I think that this goes to show that the wrong market and the wrong concept can hold back people, but once they are in big growth markets, creative people really get to shine like these guys have been doing for the past years.
Just the sign-up referral thing is pretty innovative. I referred one person and I'm #26 on the list, so at least 25 people have referred at least one other person? That's not bad.
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by ABrandt on Thursday January 27, 2011 @07:23PM
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Just the sign-up referral thing is pretty innovative. I referred one person and I'm #26 on the list, so at least 25 people have referred at least one other person? That's not bad.
To be fair, the waiting list with referral incentives was discussed a couple weeks back. It appears that a startup called Forkly started it, and then the infamous hipster popularized it.
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by electra526 on Sunday January 30, 2011 @12:33AM
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as I understand it, jtv has a more active and dedicated community and more user generated content than the other sites. ustream and livestream seem to have more corporate partnerships, more big events streamed live, but jtv has a more loyal fanbase and following of users.
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by jsilver608 on Thursday January 27, 2011 @05:45PM
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I love Justin.tv. I just discovered their live streaming section, which has everything from office episodes to television stations I don't get in my area (I've been practicing my Mandarin Chinese by watching a station in Toronto)
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by strayer on Friday January 28, 2011 @03:06AM
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I read "social scam" in the HN entry. I only realised it was "social cam" when I actually clicked on the link (after I read a few of the top-ranked comments).
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by chollida1 on Thursday January 27, 2011 @06:46PM
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I didn't down vote you but I'd imagine the down voting wasn't for disagreement with you, but rather, because your statement doesn't seem to add much value to the conversation.
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by clintboxe on Thursday January 27, 2011 @06:11PM
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They should stick to products like this. I'm wondering what will happen to justin.tv after the upcoming UFC court case ? Or will the case go the way of Viacom vs. YouTube ?
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by JMiao on Thursday January 27, 2011 @06:57PM
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i used to go to justin.tv and view the highlights of justin's day. pretty cool, but how would this work with my friends? fun to see things come full circle.
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by ericmsimons on Thursday January 27, 2011 @05:46PM
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Is that sarcasm? I think Justin.tv's guys have made some realy progress as far as online video goes. They're pioneers. I'm sure they have some great stuff planned for mobile!
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by elvirs on Thursday January 27, 2011 @05:50PM
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yeah they have developed pioneering technology but they failed to build a profitable company, which is what matters if you take funding and present yourself a company.
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by pg on Thursday January 27, 2011 @10:26PM
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As someone who funded them, I disagree with you. What investors are looking for is scale combined with profitability. Often the best way to achieve that is to optimize for scale first, as Google did.
It's easy to "build a profitable company." Just start an unambitious service business with low costs. But it is much harder to start from that and add scale than to start from scale and add profitability.
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by staunch on Friday January 28, 2011 @01:02AM
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It's also pretty easy to create a large scale business by taking shortcuts like streaming copyrighted content. Look at Grooveshark, Stage6, or any of the hundreds of popular torrent sites.
For someone who's used to creating normal web products it's shocking to see how fast a site can grow with copyrighted content.
It's not "make something people want" it's "give people what you already know they want but can't get for free".
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by ericmsimons on Thursday January 27, 2011 @06:06PM
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Welcome to the current world of web 2.0. Justin.tv will either figure out how to become profitable or will be bought out by an already profitable company. Probably the latter, but time will tell. Either way their technology is worth millions and that would be a hot sell.
I have a lot of respect for Justin.tv's founders/team. If you're going to be pessimistic, please be pessimistic because of a valid point. HN is a great community and I really enjoy the people who post on here...I want it to stay that way!
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by elvirs on Thursday January 27, 2011 @06:16PM
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I said nothing about the founding team, and I hope their next project will work out great, but video streaming bandwagon (which started with justin.tv) is defacto overhyped and underperforming industry. anyways, goodluck.
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by elvirs on Thursday January 27, 2011 @06:54PM
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in terms of revenue underperforming,
of course it grows like crazy because everybody uses it to stream paid tv channels.
go on google and search for soccer games that are not broadcasted on free channels and you will see the growth.
anyways, i dont see a point in this discussion anymore.
Re:Justin.tv guys launching new mobile video app Socialcam
by karanr on Thursday January 27, 2011 @06:06PM
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Why not just wait and see what its all about before we knock it down? It could be a revolutionary new way of sharing experiences. I for one am optimistic.
The Justin.tv guys really took off after they closed down Kiko. I think that this goes to show that the wrong market and the wrong concept can hold back people, but once they are in big growth markets, creative people really get to shine like these guys have been doing for the past years.
Just the sign-up referral thing is pretty innovative. I referred one person and I'm #26 on the list, so at least 25 people have referred at least one other person? That's not bad.
To be fair, the waiting list with referral incentives was discussed a couple weeks back. It appears that a startup called Forkly started it, and then the infamous hipster popularized it.
Ref: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2096406
Not that I would do it differently, there's dozens of reasons, but it's a blog post I would want to read.
In all seriousness, I promise we will explain this later.
There's room for a parody I guess.
It's easy to "build a profitable company." Just start an unambitious service business with low costs. But it is much harder to start from that and add scale than to start from scale and add profitability.
For someone who's used to creating normal web products it's shocking to see how fast a site can grow with copyrighted content.
It's not "make something people want" it's "give people what you already know they want but can't get for free".
I have a lot of respect for Justin.tv's founders/team. If you're going to be pessimistic, please be pessimistic because of a valid point. HN is a great community and I really enjoy the people who post on here...I want it to stay that way!
i am out. (btw, keep downvoting :) )