There is also no obligations on us to not call out companies for being ageist.

"Shut up or leave if you don't like it" is a very bad form of argument imho.

What is ageist about a workweek-long company trip? I went on them in my 20s, my 30s and now in my 40s. I’ll do them in my 50s as well. I went on them when I was single, in a relationship, and married. I went on them before kids, with infants, toddlers, and now with elementary school age kids.

My fellow attendees at these events are in their 30s through 50s (and for all I know, some might be in their 60s or 20s).

I don’t see ageist discrimination around business trips to be honest. If business travel isn’t for you for whatever reason, there are an enormous number of jobs that don’t require or even offer business travel.

At the extreme, there are some jobs that are 75% (or whatever) travel to customer sites. Not my thing--though I travel quite a bit. But it's silly to suggest that such jobs shouldn't exist. Just don't take them if they aren't for you.

For distributed work, I actually think it's really important to budget and plan for F2F events. Again, if you prefer more of a 9-5 5 days limited travel job, maybe don't do that.

Requiring travel is not an ageist policy, it’s an attribute of a job. I know many people with kids who are on the road constantly with demanding jobs, this is a trade off they’ve made in order to provide their desired lifestyle for their family.

(I'm the same poster)

If you know ageism is rampant. Perhaps take this into consideration before selecting the tech industry?

There are other industries which are more family friendly. They might not pay as much, but that's the trade-off. You can't have both.

It's not an inherent trade-off tech is participating in -it's the result of insensitive policies.

It's not like doing retreats or other things people with families don't like is what causes it to pay more.

Also insensitive people, apparently.

People age- everyone does it. The industry is going to have to deal with that at some point. Telling old people to leave the industry at a certain point in their career isn't real advice.

There is no trade-off to be had, the industry should not be ageist, end of.