Re:Ray Dalio says the global economy is under threat
by cmxch on Monday November 04, 2019 @12:46AM
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What happens if someone wants to do make-work, especially if it's for something significantly greater than basic income?
Being on the current analog of UBI(SSI/SSDI) is not pleasant, as much as you might think. A decade of low income idleness, equally low job prospects, and low opportunity for change is very demoralizing.
If it meant that one was fine being the IT/CS equivalent of an overpaid toll booth operator, nothing wrong with that. Either they end up finding something better or finish off their career doing something more than being idle.
Re:Ray Dalio says the global economy is under threat
by zozbot234 on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:39AM
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There's no such thing as a "current analog of UBI". SSI/SSDI forces you to be idle if you want to receive it, while you would definitely be allowed to work (and perhaps even expected to, because reasonable UBI proposals are quite on the lowish side) under UBI.
Re:Ray Dalio says the global economy is under threat
by darepublic on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:28PM
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To work UBI needs to be a survivable income, and also granted even if you make more than it already. That way it can be used as a safety net for the helplessly poor, a very valuable additional source of income for the working poor, and a buffer to let people actually try to implement their ideas instead of do 'make work' like an overpaid toll booth operator. The people who want to do something more valuable than work a toll booth should be prioritized over the people who wish to impeded the entire progress of humanity so they can be overpaid to do make work (dont' know if those people exist as abundantly as you seem to assume)
Giving people pointless bullshit jobs for its own sake sounds like insanity to me. Yes being able to live without working will pose a challenge to humanity, but it's a challenge we should face. The alternative is mandating that people do something even if it is really useless or impedes a more efficient system because we don't trust their ability to figure out how to live well on their own.