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Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by journalctl on Saturday November 02, 2019 @10:32AM (#21427898)
> Do we have any recourse against this monopoly...?

Once upon a time, Congress used to write and pass laws to protect Americans from egregious abuses of power like this. Of course, that time is long gone.

Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by dehrmann on Saturday November 02, 2019 @10:42AM (#21427952)
> egregious abuses of power like this

Do you honestly think removing URLs from search results is an "egregious abuse of power?" This is the company that buys credit card transactions from Visa et al. and associates them with your maps and and history for the benefit of advertisers, and you're complaining about them removing a design element 95% of people probably don't care about?

Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by journalctl on Saturday November 02, 2019 @10:47AM (#21427975)
I meant Google in general. It’s yet another tiny step in a terrible direction. At this point I would love to legislate most of Google out of existence, personally.
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by jumbopapa on Saturday November 02, 2019 @11:59AM (#21428355)
I don't really buy using legislation. Alternatives exist and people don't seem to care to use them. That's the market at work.
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by dessant on Saturday November 02, 2019 @12:16PM (#21428455)
> I don't really buy using legislation. Alternatives exist and people don't seem to care to use them.

Google is engaged in using its market dominance in one segment to gain or maintain dominance in others, while suppressing the competition. This is illegal behavior for which Google has been fined several times over the past few years.

Just consider that in past Android versions there was a hard-coded Google search bar on the default home screen that you could not remove. Google has been forced to ask users and offer a set of alternative search engines on devices with recent Android versions. Same goes for Chrome and competing browsers [1].

Right now Google Search detects the Firefox for Android user agent and serves a second-tier search experience for Firefox users on Android. They have been doing this for the past 6 years [2].

[1] https://mashable.com/article/google-browser-search-engine-ch...

[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975444

Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by scarface74 on Saturday November 02, 2019 @12:24PM (#21428503)
How is Google stopping users from using another search engine?
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by ConceptJunkie on Saturday November 02, 2019 @07:56PM (#21430983)
Once you have monopoly power, the market can do little. Google has that power now.
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by hodgesrm on Saturday November 02, 2019 @11:26PM (#21431931)
You mean like the power of yahoo/altavista back in the day?
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by ric2b on Sunday November 03, 2019 @02:01PM (#21435828)
You mean like when the internet was small and being on top of yahoo/altavista search results was mostly irrelevant to your bottom line?
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by xiphias2 on Saturday November 02, 2019 @11:45AM (#21428280)
Google does lots of great things for people, so it looks to me like you're overreacting. Finding the right balance is important in regulation.
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by ConceptJunkie on Saturday November 02, 2019 @07:59PM (#21430993)
Google is unequivocally evil. It doesn't matter how much good they do when they are being evil.
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by journalctl on Saturday November 02, 2019 @02:15PM (#21429129)
It’s important to keep in mind that imbalance goes both ways.
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by birdyrooster on Saturday November 02, 2019 @12:39PM (#21428605)
Yes it is when taken in aggregate with all of the other changes which have been hostile to users and good for their ad business. One example is how they used AB testing to justify, over the course of a decade, a slow redesign of Sponsored Results so they look nearly identical to like regular search results.

Their unethical behavior lead me to quit, divest, and delete all of my Google accounts.

Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by bsanr2 on Saturday November 02, 2019 @11:59AM (#21428351)
Re: the phishing example, it's roughly analogous to a business refusing to put up caution signs around dangerous areas like slippery floors or where there's construction. It's such a small thing that could help prevent enormous losses from clients and yet they won't do it for shady business reasons.
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by PavlovsCat on Saturday November 02, 2019 @06:51PM (#21430673)
> Do you honestly think removing URLs from search results is an "egregious abuse of power?"

Yes, it very obviously is. Google the search engine, and therefore Google, would never have gotten off the ground if it had hidden URL from the beginning.

> and you're complaining about them removing a design element 95% of people probably don't care about?

If so many people don't care about something so basic and crucial to not being a serf in the information age, then that makes the issue even more important, and Google's behaviour even more egregious.

Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by anoncake on Saturday November 02, 2019 @11:46AM (#21428289)
Does an abuse of power become less egregious because there are even worse ones?
Re:Google are removing URLs entirely from search results? by maest on Saturday November 02, 2019 @03:43PM (#21429609)
What about the rest of the world? Everyone uses Google, not just the US.